Hi Everett,

I agree 100%.  And, I would add that it isn't fair that Apple should have to 
deal with other developers' sloppy design.  That said I do think it's in 
Apple's best interest to do so.  Personally, I'd love to see more blind users 
switch to the Mac, but it's hard to make that argument in a convincing way if 
you also have to tell them, "Well,  You'll love using your Mac, but it will 
probably be an extension of your PC, rather than replacing it."  Given the cost 
of a Mac, that doesn't make for a very compelling argument to switch. :)

I also think that if Apple wants to present VO as giving out-of-the-box 
accessibility, having a glitch like that on a site as popular as Facebook 
detracts from that claim.
Just my $.02.
Cheers,
Donna
On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:04 AM, E.J. Zufelt wrote:

> On 2010-03-15, at 9:05 AM, Donna Goodin wrote:
> 
>> Your point about Facebook and web standards is well-taken, but 
>> Facebook--whether they follow web standards or not--is a very widely used 
>> site.  For me right now, this is just one more thing that my Mac can't do 
>> that my PC can.  The more things like that that are out there, the less 
>> likely it is that the Mac can take the place of the PC.
> 
> * Good morning Donna,
> 
> I definitely understand your point of view, and I share it in part.  The 
> reason that some technologies work better with assistive technologies on 
> Windows than on the Mac, not speaking about Facebook in particular, is 
> because assistive technology vendors for Windows accommodate application and 
> web development techniques that don't follow standards.  The Apple approach, 
> which has annoyed me more often than not, is to not accommodate these poorly 
> written applications and web-sites.  Arguably the owness for making an 
> application accessible is that of the developer, and not of the assistive 
> technology vendor, however, this means that some things will be poorly 
> accessible, since generally speaking developers don't really tend to 
> understand accessibility, or standards in general, very well.
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