Well done for giving Safari a go, I just can’t get my head around it but I will 
teach myself one day. I tend to use Safari on the iPhone as I find this much 
easier. Oh, and I haven’t got a windows computer so can’t use that for the net.
I know one has to interact with safari  when doing things and maybe that is 
where I’m getting confused.

> On 17/05/2020, at 08:55, Shirley Healy <manyofus1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Lol Brad! I loved your end line! I will check out the vo help then! Thanks!
> shirley
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>> From: Brad Snyder <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 3:14 PM
>> Subject: Re: commands for navigating the web
>> 
>> Actually, the correct command for navigating by headings is VO + CMD + H..  
>> Navigate by links using VO + CMD + L..
>> You can add the SHIFT key to navigate in reverse order.
>> You can turn on Keyboard Help using VO + K, and then using VO + CMD press 
>> various letters and learn what they do while navigating the web using Safari.
>> You can also turn on QuickNav, and then turn on single key navigation using 
>> VO + Q to navigate using single keys.
>> With QuickNav turned on, you can use numbers to navigate by heading levels.
>> 
>> Check out VO Help for much more information on accessing the web using 
>> Safari and VoiceOver.
>> I much prefer navigating the web on a Mac with VoiceOver than doing so on 
>> Windows using JAWS, but I realize that on this list, I am preaching to the 
>> choir.
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On May 16, 2020, at 05:07, Raymond Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net 
>> <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Can’t give you all of them but here are some.
>> 
>> Navigate heading by heading, use Vo+H.
>> Click on a link, use VO+space.
>> 
>> Navigate to next text area, N.
>> 
>> For many more commands, use VO+K and in the keyboard help mode, use VO plus 
>> various letter keys to discover what they let you do.  
>> Get out of keyboard help by pressing escape.
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from the first computer with built-in screen reader access for the 
>> blind:
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> The constantly barefooted Ray
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2020, at 3:44 AM, Shirley Healy <manyofus1...@gmail.com 
>>> <mailto:manyofus1...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> how do I navigate the web ona mac? what are the most useful commands, for 
>>> reading the text of websites, going to a link, like moving to it, and is 
>>> the rotar better to use than just navigating the site without it? if so how 
>>> do you turn it on?
>>> shirley
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