Hi, Just a little clarification here. The problems you were having are not specifically due to Apple incompatibilities. As Sabahattin mentioned, the Express has specific features that allow it to be a "repeater". The Extreme, and many other home routers are not meant to be repeaters, but more like the centre of your network. Using WDS, you can chain networks, but performance is negatively impacted. WDS is not specifically an Apple feature, but it is a feature that is not really used often anymore. You may have had similar issues if you had had a Linksys router instead of an Extreme.
Later... Tim Kilburn Jamf Certified Tech Apple Teacher (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) Fort McMurray, AB Canada On Feb 5, 2020, at 01:49, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: Hi Sabahattin, Thank you for this advice. As you rightly point out the last thing I want is to slow down my network. The reason I purchased Netgear Nighthawk was in order to improve the performance of my network. As the number of devices/computers has increased in my home over the last few years, I have noticed AirPort Extreme dropping connections a lot and it became a nuisance. Whilst it still works I thought I’d try something more modern and Nighthawk seemed like a very good and affordable proposition. I did however forget the compatibility problems with Apple products. interestingly, I managed to configure my Airport Express to join the new Netgear as main router network in bridge mode, which allows me to stream music to my Sonos using Airfoil app so that’s good so far. I failed entirely with AirPort Extreme 6th generation. I even worked with an Apple support chap and he wasn’t able to make it work either. Ethernet is not an option for me as, well, you know people you live with are a bit fussy and to be honest I’d need meters of ethernet cable to achieve what I want. But I did manage to configure the older AirPort Extreme 5th generation to join my wifi network as Bridge which allows me at least to use my usb printer connected to it remotely. What I have lost - and it is annoying - is the use of my WD My Cloud network drive which used to be attached to AirPort Extreme 5th generation ethernet port and now of course my mac doesn’t see it. You mentioned getting possibly a different extender. Would you have a suggestion as to what I might need in order to use a usb printer, a couple of usb external drives and WD my Cloud in order for these to work and be recognizable by my mac? Would it make sense to get a Netgear extender? I’m very unschooled in computer language, and although I’ve learnt an awful lot using macs and getting into trouble for years, I’m still very very amateurish. So I’d welcome any suggestions for a wifi extender with usb and ethernet ports that would play nicely with Netgear Nighthawk. By the way, mine is Nighthawk x6 r8000. The Netgear genie is not accessible with voiceover but the web interface works. Thanks again and forgive my rather non-technical language. Andrew > On 4 Feb 2020, at 20:13, 'Sabahattin Gucukoglu' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Unfortunately, the answer is, “I’m sorry Andrew, I’m afraid I can’t do that.” > > The problem is that the AirPort Express supports the STA (station) proxy > mode, wherein each Ethernet and Wi-Fi device connected to the extension is > proxied to your existing network as a Wi-Fi station itself. This is how most > “repeater” products still work. It’s particularly awesome when you’ve got an > Ethernet-only device and want it talking to your wireless network. > > The Time Capsule and Extreme never had this functionality. Instead, you use > WDS (Wireless Distribution System) if you want a wireless backbone. That > requires support from both sides of the bridge, but worse, it impairs > performance for anybody connected to the extender, by exactly half for every > traversal through a bridge. > > If you can get your Netgear to use WDS, that’s the way. Otherwise you’ll have > to use an Ethernet backbone or purchase a different extender. Sorry about > that. Ethernet is always preferable, of course, but it’s not always > practical. > > The way that you get to the setup mode of the Extreme is to reset it. When > you join the network either on macOS or in iOS, you’ll get a special > AirPort-specific setup regime. > > I will miss my AirPort product when it finally dies. But I think I’ll be > moving to Netgear’s Nighthawk for a simple base station arrangement in the > traditional style. The Time Capsule is rendered obsolete as soon as the > internal hard disk dies, and that’s already happened to me once. Time to move > on, I fancy, and remember the good times. > > Cheers, > Sabahattin > > -- > The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries > list. > > If you have any questions or concerns about the running of this list, or if > you feel that a member's post is inappropriate, please contact the owners or > moderators directly rather than posting on the list itself. > > Your Mac Visionaries list moderator is Mark Taylor. 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