Hi, there is a email list especially for blind IPhone users. See link below to the site to let her sign up. Also I can give info on how to sign up with out a Google email if you think she would want it. See link below might have to copy and paste it in address bar.
http://groups.google.com/group/viphone?hl=en Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Doremus Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 5:00 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: deleting an app from an iPhone using vo Mahalo to all the help with deleting app with vo. I don't use vo on the phone but my partner does. Any help I can give her makes using the iPhone more fun for her and married life easier on me. On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Joe Plummer <joeplum...@tds.net> wrote: Hi, you can delete the app by doing this. Find the app you want to delete and then double tap and hold this will put it in a edit mode. Then just chose delete on that app. Now this will only work on app that you installed. Also the next time you go to sync make sure you uncheck this app under the app tab or it will be put back on the phone. The other way is do it in iTunes. You can do this by hooking your phone to your PC or Mac and in iTunes go to your iPhone and look under the app tab and uncheck the app that you don't want on your phone any more. Then sync your iPhone. This should remove this app from the phone. Now this will not un install it from the computer. Hopes this helps. Sign, JP ( Joe Plummer) joeplum...@tds.net -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Doremus Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:14 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: deleting an app from an iphone using vo How does one delete an unwanted app from iPhone with vo running? On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Krister Ekstrom <kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote: I started my current Mac experience by borrowing a Mac Mini from a vendor who sold assistive technology for Windows. I wanted to prove that what they said about the mac was wrong, that they couldn't use it effectively as blind folks. I dumped my old pc and started use the Mac full time from the beginning and i haven't looked back since. True i have a virtual machine but that's mostly for playing audio games that are not available on the Mac yet. I do not miss the single key keystrokes much and i'm so glad i got rid of that virtual buffer and all the other ways windows screen reading software spoon feeds us. /Krister 12 feb 2010 kl. 09.13 skrev Nicolai Svendsen: > Hi, > > I use VoiceOver the most, and I'm way more efficient using VoiceOver now. I found that, if you were loading absolutely massive webpages, JAWS/Window Eyes first had to load all the contents into their virtual buffer before you could do as much as navigate. I personally see that as a huge drawback to efficiency. The only reason JAWS or Window-Eyes, not to mention NVDA among others take advantage of one-letter navigation keys in HTML environments is probably because they have that drawback. VoiceOVer might be able to, but the issue would be that, if you're in a form field, you'd need Forms mode which I'm so glad to get rid of. With a Windows-based screenreader, you have to exit forms mode, then use H to go to the next heading, whereas with VoiceOver you can simply do it within the field itself due to separate commands. That'll still slow you down, no matter how fast you are. It's still an extra keystroke, regardless of Auto-forms mode. You still have to exit it one way or the other. > > Just as a note, I can actually hit VO-H with one hand without much effort. I can't hit VO-Shift-H, but if I have to use that keystroke I'll just use the right shift key. > > You knew what you were getting into, though. You knew the functionality existed, but it's bound to be different as it's an entirely different operating system. I can't stress that enough. > > Suggestion: Dump your Windows computer in the trash and spend all time on the Mac. You always have virtual machines if you need to do something you know you can only do on Windows, but the way you'll really get efficient in navigation with VoiceOver is to get rid of all Window-sbased solutions and just suck it up when something is a bit different. I say that because that worked for me, and it's the best thing I ever did. It's not an insult to any new switchers, just something to consider. I yet have to understand why people buy Macbook Pros if they might not even like the operating system or the screenreader. Just something I've been wondering, since it's mostly people who have never used Macs who seem to buy them. Or, at least, people who hardly have used Macs or even people who aren't open to the idea of using a Mac. > > Regards, > Nic > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Feb 12, 2010, at 1:38 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > >> Mary, >> >> What I was pointing out is that jumping from heading to heading may not be as simple as just pressing h, but the functionality still exists, even if you have to hold some additional keys down. In the end you use what works best for you. YOu say browsing using IE on windows is more efficient for you and that is great, but for me I have found ways of becoming very efficient using VO and Safari. In fact I prefer in nearly all cases now, using VO and Safari. There was a time I may have agreed with you, but as I really became comfortable with VO and the entire Mac experience, I really have no use for windows or windows-based screen readers. Well the only reason I use windows personally is for some courses I am taking that use news groups and so far outlook express is the only choice I have found thus far and since most the materials have to be produced using Word, I have to drag that out. Otherwise, I honestly do find the Mac works well for me. Again, you use what works for you because being efficient and productive is most important. >> On Feb 11, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote: >> >>> Hi Scott, >>> I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the differences between moving around on a page among elements with Window Eyes or Jaws and Voice Over. You said that you didn't see much difference between pressing h by itself or pressing 3 additional keys in addition to h to move among headers. And you say this is easily done with one hand? You must have amazing hands. I can no way do that. I've been touch typing for decades. It gets even more interesting when you add the shift into the mix to go up the page in reverse order. Doable? yes? As easy as pressing one key? Not by a long shot. Are there other benefits, such as not having to go in and out of forms mode? for sure. The added functionality for VO on the web in Snow Leopard is one of the main reasons I decided to try a Mac. I really appreciate the numpad commander, although learning it was not as intuitive as learning mnemonics on the regular keyboard. In no way is the rotor as efficient for me as having that array of single letter keystrokes that let me move among various web elements at will. Another thing I hope can be implemented in the future is a means of letting focus return to where it was when you return back to a previously visited page. That's a big time saver with the Windows screen readers, although it doesn't always work. Its nonexistent with vo. I like the fact that pages seem to load faster with Safari than they do with IE and a screen reader. Over all, for me, the Windows experience is still more efficient. But there are pluses with the Mac, and I'm hoping it will keep improving. Group mode is something I have tried and dropped. I just never found a page where it seemed to offer any advantage, since I don't really care how the page is laid out. I want info and where it is on the page just doesn't seem very important to me, so long as I can get to it efficiently. 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