Mahalo to all the help with deleting app with vo. I don't use vo on the phone but my partner does. Any help I can give her makes using the iPhone more fun for her and married life easier on me.
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 4:59 AM, Joe Plummer <joeplum...@tds.net> wrote: > Hi, you can delete the app by doing this. Find the app you want to delete > and then double tap and hold this will put it in a edit mode. Then just > chose delete on that app. Now this will only work on app that you > installed. > Also the next time you go to sync make sure you uncheck this app under the > app tab or it will be put back on the phone. The other way is do it in > iTunes. You can do this by hooking your phone to your PC or Mac and in > iTunes go to your iPhone and look under the app tab and uncheck the app > that > you don't want on your phone any more. Then sync your iPhone. This should > remove this app from the phone. Now this will not un install it from the > computer. Hopes this helps. > > > Sign, > JP ( Joe Plummer) > joeplum...@tds.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Doremus > Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 6:14 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: deleting an app from an iphone using vo > > How does one delete an unwanted app from iPhone with vo running? > > > On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 12:37 AM, Krister Ekstrom > <kris...@kristersplace.com> wrote: > > > I started my current Mac experience by borrowing a Mac Mini from a > vendor who sold assistive technology for Windows. I wanted to prove that > what they said about the mac was wrong, that they couldn't use it > effectively as blind folks. I dumped my old pc and started use the Mac full > time from the beginning and i haven't looked back since. True i have a > virtual machine but that's mostly for playing audio games that are not > available on the Mac yet. I do not miss the single key keystrokes much and > i'm so glad i got rid of that virtual buffer and all the other ways windows > screen reading software spoon feeds us. > /Krister > 12 feb 2010 kl. 09.13 skrev Nicolai Svendsen: > > > Hi, > > > > I use VoiceOver the most, and I'm way more efficient using > VoiceOver now. I found that, if you were loading absolutely massive > webpages, JAWS/Window Eyes first had to load all the contents into their > virtual buffer before you could do as much as navigate. I personally see > that as a huge drawback to efficiency. The only reason JAWS or Window-Eyes, > not to mention NVDA among others take advantage of one-letter navigation > keys in HTML environments is probably because they have that drawback. > VoiceOVer might be able to, but the issue would be that, if you're in a > form > field, you'd need Forms mode which I'm so glad to get rid of. With a > Windows-based screenreader, you have to exit forms mode, then use H to go > to > the next heading, whereas with VoiceOver you can simply do it within the > field itself due to separate commands. That'll still slow you down, no > matter how fast you are. It's still an extra keystroke, regardless of > Auto-forms mode. You still have to exit it one way or the other. > > > > Just as a note, I can actually hit VO-H with one hand without > much effort. I can't hit VO-Shift-H, but if I have to use that keystroke > I'll just use the right shift key. > > > > You knew what you were getting into, though. You knew the > functionality existed, but it's bound to be different as it's an entirely > different operating system. I can't stress that enough. > > > > Suggestion: Dump your Windows computer in the trash and spend all > time on the Mac. You always have virtual machines if you need to do > something you know you can only do on Windows, but the way you'll really > get > efficient in navigation with VoiceOver is to get rid of all Window-sbased > solutions and just suck it up when something is a bit different. I say that > because that worked for me, and it's the best thing I ever did. It's not an > insult to any new switchers, just something to consider. I yet have to > understand why people buy Macbook Pros if they might not even like the > operating system or the screenreader. Just something I've been wondering, > since it's mostly people who have never used Macs who seem to buy them. Or, > at least, people who hardly have used Macs or even people who aren't open > to > the idea of using a Mac. > > > > Regards, > > Nic > > Skype: Kvalme > > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > > AIM: cincinster > > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > > Facebook Profile > > My Twitter > > > > On Feb 12, 2010, at 1:38 AM, Scott Howell wrote: > > > >> Mary, > >> > >> What I was pointing out is that jumping from heading to heading > may not be as simple as just pressing h, but the functionality still > exists, > even if you have to hold some additional keys down. In the end you use what > works best for you. YOu say browsing using IE on windows is more efficient > for you and that is great, but for me I have found ways of becoming very > efficient using VO and Safari. In fact I prefer in nearly all cases now, > using VO and Safari. There was a time I may have agreed with you, but as I > really became comfortable with VO and the entire Mac experience, I really > have no use for windows or windows-based screen readers. Well the only > reason I use windows personally is for some courses I am taking that use > news groups and so far outlook express is the only choice I have found thus > far and since most the materials have to be produced using Word, I have to > drag that out. Otherwise, I honestly do find the Mac works well for me. > Again, you use what works for you because being efficient and productive is > most important. > >> On Feb 11, 2010, at 7:23 PM, Mary Otten wrote: > >> > >>> Hi Scott, > >>> I'm not Linda, but I had to respond to your note to her re the > differences between moving around on a page among elements with Window Eyes > or Jaws and Voice Over. You said that you didn't see much difference > between > pressing h by itself or pressing 3 additional keys in addition to h to move > among headers. And you say this is easily done with one hand? You must have > amazing hands. I can no way do that. I've been touch typing for decades. It > gets even more interesting when you add the shift into the mix to go up the > page in reverse order. Doable? yes? As easy as pressing one key? Not by a > long shot. Are there other benefits, such as not having to go in and out of > forms mode? for sure. The added functionality for VO on the web in Snow > Leopard is one of the main reasons I decided to try a Mac. I really > appreciate the numpad commander, although learning it was not as intuitive > as learning mnemonics on the regular keyboard. In no way is the rotor as > efficient for me as having that array of single letter keystrokes that let > me move among various web elements at will. Another thing I hope can be > implemented in the future is a means of letting focus return to where it > was > when you return back to a previously visited page. That's a big time saver > with the Windows screen readers, although it doesn't always work. Its > nonexistent with vo. I like the fact that pages seem to load faster with > Safari than they do with IE and a screen reader. Over all, for me, the > Windows experience is still more efficient. But there are pluses with the > Mac, and I'm hoping it will keep improving. Group mode is something I have > tried and dropped. I just never found a page where it seemed to offer any > advantage, since I don't really care how the page is laid out. I want info > and where it is on the page just doesn't seem very important to me, so long > as I can get to it efficiently. 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