James: Re using preview:  I can get to a "next page" button, but it continues 
to say, "next page Button Press Next page button."  This is one thing that 
really is getting me frustrated about my Mac learning----stuff that simply 
doesn't seem to work.  The Electronic beast continues to outsmart me!:)
Carolyn
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  From: James & Nash 
  To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 1:51 PM
  Subject: Re: Accessible PDF viewer, was weird pdf document.


  Hi Carolyn

  On 11 Feb 2010, at 19:43, Carolyn wrote:
    I'm looking at a "user guide" in a pdf file, on the MacBook Pro.  I can't 
seem to get beyond the first page, or copyright info.  I assume this is because 
I'm using previewer.  Would I get further using the Skim program you mentioned 
here?
  Try pressing page down. That should move you to the next page. 


  TC
  James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny

    James:
    I'm looking at a "user guide" in a pdf file, on the MacBook Pro.  I can't 
seem to get beyond the first page, or copyright info.  I assume this is because 
I'm using previewer.  Would I get further using the Skim program you mentioned 
here?
    TIA

    Carolyn CH:)
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      From: James & Nash
      To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 7:12 AM
      Subject: Re: Accessible PDF viewer, was weird pdf document.


      Hi,
        Other than Preview is there a PDF viewer / reader application that is 
accessible with VoiceOver?


      Yes there is, it is called Skim and you can get it from SourceForge or:


      http://www.opensourcemac.org


      TC
      James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny

      On 11 Feb 2010, at 12:27, E.J. Zufelt wrote:


        Good morning,


        Other than Preview is there a PDF viewer / reader application that is 
accessible with VoiceOver?


        Thanks,

        Everett

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        On 2010-02-11, at 7:23 AM, Chris Hofstader wrote:


          The PDF author did not use the appropriate table tags in your problem 
document. You may be able to do a "select all" and copy and paste the table 
into a word processor or spreadsheet which may be able to sort out the broken 
table for you. Otherwise, you are SOL - Viva Adobe!

          On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:43 AM, erik burggraaf wrote:


            Hi Guys,



            I've got a list of contacts here in PDF format.  It's a sort'a 
table with name, address, phone number and so on.  So, no matter how I view 
this table in prevuew, it always gives me all the names first.  After that it 
gives me all the addresses.  Then it gives me all the phone numbers.  I've 
tried going up and down, left and right, with and without quick nav, and the 
order is always the same no matter what.  I'm sure it doesn't look this way on 
the screen.  It's got to be information across the columns and contacts up and 
down the rows like a deacent table, but I can't get it to read that way using 
preview with voiceover.



            Any suggestions would be most appreciated.



            Thanks,



            erik burggraaf

            A+ certified technician and user support consultant.

            Phone: 888-255-5194

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