Hi Esther. Do you know any pdf readers which makes tables in pdf documents accessible with Voiceover like tables works on websites in Safari? I have to read big tables in some pdf files, and I find it pretty difficult to read tables in the way preview shows it. A long time ago, I installed a plugin for safari to read pdf files, but this broke something in my Safari which crash the app each time I click on a pdf file from a website, so I don't recommend you to do that! Best regards Søren Jensen Mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/
Den Feb 11, 2010 kl. 5:32 PM skrev Esther: > Hi, > > To follow up on James' reply, there's Skim that is free and open source, with > some nice annotation options, that is available from SourceForge: > http://skim-app.sourceforge.net/ > There's also Adobe Reader, also freeware, which has a recent new version > release according to the Apple Downloads page: > http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/internet_utilities/adobereader.html > Primarily of interest for Tiger (Mac OS X 10.4) users, there's Travis > Siegel's Softcon PDF Viewer, which modified the earlier version of Preview to > allow continuous reading under Tiger when using VO-A instead of having to > press a key at the end of each page: > http://www.softcon.com/mac/ > Skim came up in a recent list discussion where Dónal originally asked about > being able to show PDF presentations that he had prepared with LaTeX (and a > style package called Beamer) using Preview in Full Screen mode on a laptop. > (This was a decision point in whether to buy a new MacBook Pro or to use an > old Windows laptop.) The discussion had moved on to another thread on > Keynote's accessibility for preparing presentations when I commented that if > he simply used Skim instead of Preview, he could use Skim's presentation view > mode (Command-Option-P) to directly display his large set of existing PDF > presentations, along with any presentations he produced in either PowerPoint > or Keynote that were written out as PDFs (as some meetings request, so there > are no problems when the presentation files are displayed across platforms > due to differences in available fonts between Windows and Macs). Further, > there are presentation options to automatically play through the > presentations in timed mode, or with selected transition effects etc. For all > other purposes, Skim would basically work just like Preview, only with > additional options. > Note that the reason for this suggestion was primarily for presentation > display, not PDF reading, although that's not how most list users would use > Skim. I did follow up with a post on how Skim works, compared to Preview, > which you can read in the archived post: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg15820.html > Again, note that this post quotes a much earlier post made on another list, > that wasn't primarily designed to answer the question about how to use Skim > and its annotation features, but which addressed the issue of whether it was > possible to get better results when using the "Find" operation in viewing > PDFs (under Leopard). > As for Adobe Reader, it uses text-to-speech instead of VoiceOver to read PDF > files. I find its configuration unintuitive, so I usually have to read my > notes on how this works in order to use it. For example, the speaking rate > isn't set by your text-to-speech rate setting -- it's entirely ignored, and > has to be set separately within Adobe Reader, along with the voice selection. > In order to save you from reading through all the myriad menus (unless the > Windows version is just like this, and you're already familiar with the > structure), I'm pointing you to my archived list post that describes how to > use Adobe Reader: > http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg08026.html > I really don't use this very often -- Preview and Skim are much nicer to use > -- and I haven't tried the latest version, so there may be some differences > or new options. > OT for this thread: you asked elsewhere about full-featured, free word > processing options under Snow Leopard. I assume you don't use LaTeX, since > that was also available to you under Leopard, through TeXShop. For most > people, the steep initial learning curve won't make this a worthwhile > alternative, but if you already use this as part of a linux or unix > distribution, or have other colleagues in computer science who regularly use > LaTeX, this could be an option. > Second OT point: I posted a few days before you rejoined the list about > O'Reilly's eBook bundles and the eBook "Deal of the Day" RSS feed they just > started, where nearly every day a DRM-free eBook bundle is offered for $9.99. > I recall that you've purchased online O'Reilly books before. The bundles > are multiple DRM-free formats, so you can read PDF in Preview and ePub on a > mobile device or through a web interface such as O'Reilly's Bookworm. This > may be of interest since the iPad and iBookStore is supposed to use the ePub > format. For more details, see O'Reilly's eBook site: > http://oreilly.com/ebooks/ > For the eBook Deal of the Day feed, check out: > feed://feeds.feedburner.com/oreilly/ebookdealoftheday > HTH > Cheers, > Esther > James & Nash wrote: > >> Hi, >>> Other than Preview is there a PDF viewer / reader application that is >>> accessible with VoiceOver? >> >> >> Yes there is, it is called Skim and you can get it from SourceForge or: >> >> http://www.opensourcemac.org >> >> >> On 11 Feb 2010, E.J. Zufelt wrote: >> >>> Good morning, >>> >>> Other than Preview is there a PDF viewer / reader application that is >>> accessible with VoiceOver? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Everett > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
