I'm assuming you mean is it possible to highlight text on the web using shift and the arrows with voiceover off? I have no idea lol. I assume sighted people would just use the mouse to highlight selections. On Feb 11, 2010, at 9:19 AM, James & Nash wrote:
> Hi, > Can sighted users use just the arrow keys with the shift keys to highlight > text? > > Thanks > > TC > James, Lyn, Nash & Twinny > On 11 Feb 2010, at 13:58, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I've been a Mac user for almost 2 years, and I personally don't find the web >> browsing experience on my Mac using Safari with voiceover to be on par with >> that of internet explorer and Jaws. For example, Look at the steps you >> explained to highlight and copy text "If you interact with text, use >> VO-shift-return, you can initiate marking of text and use VO-cursor keys to >> navigate and mark that text, then use VO-shift-return to stop marking the >> text. FInally command-c will copy that text for you to paste where you >> choose. You can also interact with text and use command-a to highlight all >> text you can then copy..." On I.E. you would just use shift and the arrows >> or some function of navigation commonly used throughout the Operating >> system. In Snow Leopard one should be able to use the arrows by them selves >> to navigate a web page and with shift to select. This is not the case most >> of the time. The folks didn't include this functionality into snow leopard >> by accident or just to appease windows converts in my opinion. They >> realized that the previous method was just a pain, not to mention labor >> intensive in regards to the task actually trying to be accomplished. I use >> Dom mode and sometimes voiceover indeed skips over chunks of information. I >> am not saying that Safari with Voiceover isn't serviceable but, by no means >> in my opinion is it as dependable as I.E. with Jaws. And this is coming >> from someone who Uses their Mac as their primary computer. >> On Feb 11, 2010, at 7:48 AM, Scott Howell wrote: >> >>> I think you need to take some additional time to learn how best to use >>> Safari with VOiceOver. I've been using the Mac for five years now and >>> although like any browser and screen reader, Safari and VO has issues, but >>> certainly not to the degree you seem to be having. Reading line by line is >>> no problem at all and copying information to the clipboard is again, no >>> problem. There is lots of information on how to accomplish both tasks and >>> perhaps a little research on your part will help. I'll give you a tip. If >>> you interact with text, use VO-shift-return, you can initiate marking of >>> text and use VO-cursor keys to navigate and mark that text, then use >>> VO-shift-return to stop marking the text. FInally command-c will copy that >>> text for you to paste where you choose. You can also interact with text and >>> use command-a to highlight all text you can then copy. You coming from >>> windows and using IE may find DOM mode more like your browsing experience >>> under windows using a windows-based screen reader. If your using Groups >>> mode, you are going to find the navigation of the page not to be linear as >>> is provided by DOM mode. Groups mode gives a more accurate representation >>> of how the page is laid out unlike DOM mode. >>> Once you have used Safari a while, I think you will find it will meet your >>> needs just fine. I am not so sure that even if Firefox is made accessible, >>> you will find the browsing experience significantly different. I think >>> what you will find is some differences in browsing experience as far as how >>> some sites behave, but assuming Mozilla leverages the accessibility hooks >>> of VO, the navigation will likely be quite similar. >>> >>> On Feb 11, 2010, at 6:59 AM, Lynn Schneider wrote: >>> >>>> Oh I would so love to have an alternative to Safari! I'm a fairly recent >>>> switcher and I don't miss Windows at all except that I totally and >>>> absolutely miss the great accessibility I had with IE. I hate the fact >>>> that I can't read line by line or copy web page text to the clipboard and >>>> he disturbing thing with VO and >>>> Safari is that I find that whole parts of pages are not read at all. I >>>> think Safari is the app I most dislike on the Mac. Everything else about >>>> the Mac is wonderful. >>>> On Feb 10, 2010, at 1:02 PM, Chris Blouch wrote: >>>> >>>>> Looking forward to trying out Firefox with VO working someday. FF has >>>>> really good ARIA support so it would be nice to have a browser on the Mac >>>>> that works well with this standard. Safari currently is weak. >>>>> >>>>> CB >>>>> >>>>> E.J. 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