Re: Optimizing SSD drive

'E.T.' via MacVisionaries Thu, 21 Mar 2019 10:02:03 -0700

Tim and Simon,

After more testing, it looks like turning off the first 3 options inVO Utility, under Sound solved it. "Enable Positional Audio" may be thekey. I get the same results in the beta partition.


   Simon, try disabling that option and let me know.

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On 3/20/2019 2:39 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,

Audio Ducking is in VO Utility, under the Sound category.

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On Mar 20, 2019, at 15:37, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
Where is that option at? My brain is fried from what I thought werescam calls but turns out they are not. If there is a way to pin downwhat the system is doing in the background at the moment VO fades out,it might help.
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On 3/20/2019 12:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Hi,
OK. That's interesting. I've only had that happen on installationkinds of situations where it's a basic VO. I've seen it once in ablue moon on the Login screen or some other dialog, but not consistentenough to troubleshoot. I chalked it up to something messing with theAudio Ducking controls. I tend to have them turned off on my Mac, butwith this explanation, I can say that I've seen this before. Notnecessarily on the MBP I primarily use, but it may have been on anynumber of other units I play with throughout my day.
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On Mar 20, 2019, at 11:23, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com><mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>wrote: Its not TM. Seems that VO fades (good description Simon) mostly in3rd party apps. Happens on my beta (10.14.4) as well which has no 3rdapps installed.
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On 3/20/2019 2:10 AM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Yeah ET,
Exactly,
 So when you changed to alex the issue went away?
The default voice I get with Mojave is not alex it's a female voice I think Australian which is also weird as they never run out of breath.
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This is so strange. I changed to a different voice and could notreplicate the issue. Changed back to Alex and still cannot do it. I would not describe this as choppiness however. Its more like VOruns out of breath momentarily. Hit control and it immediately comesback to life.
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On 3/18/2019 7:42 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:
Simon,

Do you get the same choppiness on the MBP as you do on the MBA?  I ask
because I'm not seeing that at all on my 2017 MBP with similar specs.
A little quicker processing speed, but nothing to write home about.

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MBP mid 2015
16GB ram,
2.9GHz i5 processor
And also ahappening on a MBA 2013 Mid, 8GB ram and I7 1.7GHz
processor, nothing is a problem when running other services etc.
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Hi,
That's worth a try.  Officially, according to Apple, those units only
accept 8 GB of RAM,althoughEveryMac.com<http://althougheverymac.com/><http://althoughEveryMac.com<http://althougheverymac.com/>> <http://everymac.com/>says
that they'll take 16 GB.  Since you still have the older RAM, it's an
excellent troubleshooting step.
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   MBP 13 inch 2012. Intel Core i7 2.9GHz 64bit. 16gig ram from
Crucial (as is the SSD).

   I may have someone come over and swap the original 8gigs back in
and test.

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On 3/14/2019 10:56 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

    Hi,
    4 to 10% is nothing.  I have things taking 95% and don't have the
    choppiness issue.  Your CPU processes things simultaneously and
    sequentially sharing the load as tasks are required.  You can have a
    fast processor, but fewer cores, a fast SSD, but slow bus speed
    between the SSD and the CPU.  It's a complicated set of parameters
    that make things work in an optimal manner.  What model of Mac are
    you running again?  What is the CPU speed and RAM?  All under About
    this Mac if you need to know that.
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       No surprise. the top two processes are...
    com.apple.speech.speechsynthesisd
    and Voiceover.
       The top one was taking anywhere from 4 to 10 percent of CPU. Is
    there a way to optimize this? As noted earlier, I notice this only
    when I actually execute a VO command.
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        Hi,
        Try going into the Activity Monitor and seeing what's at the top
        of the list.  Note which process is using up CPU resources.  I
        wouldn't suggest quitting the process yet, but take a look to
        see what might be messing with your system.
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        Simon,
           I may have spoken too soon. Seems you and I are the only
        ones. It happened a lot in the Finder, but mostly when I run an
app. It almost always happens, at random, when I press a VOcommand.
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            I don't think it's a specs issue,
            I was getting the same issue today on a mac book air that
            wasn't mine and would have had lower than average
            specifications.
            I also get it on an imac and my own mac books as well,
            I think along the lines that it's a voiceover issue
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            Subject: Optimizing SSD drive
                 Some time ago I upgraded the 8gigs of ram to 16 on the
            MBP and swapped the spinning drive for the SSD.
                 I don't recall if the issue with Voiceover existed
            before then. What happens is often when I am navigating the
            Mac, VO will sound like its being throttled back then comes
            back quickly. Its random, I never know when or what may
            trigger this.
                 So I will have someone help me put the 8gigs back
            tomorrow and see if the issue clears up. But I am wondering
            if the SSD is automatically optimized or not. If not, can it
            be optimized?
                 This happens even when I have done clean installs and
            have set things up from scratch but I am willing to try
            anything to run this down. Thoughts?
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