Simon,

Do you get the same choppiness on the MBP as you do on the MBA?  I ask because 
I'm not seeing that at all on my 2017 MBP with similar specs.  A little quicker 
processing speed, but nothing to write home about.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Mar 18, 2019, at 03:32, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote:

MBP mid 2015 
16GB ram,
2.9GHz i5 processor
And also ahappening on a MBA 2013 Mid,
8GB ram and I7 1.7GHz processor, nothing is a problem when running other 
services etc.
 
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Hi,
 
That's worth a try.  Officially, according to Apple, those units only accept 8 
GB of RAM, although EveryMac.com <http://everymac.com/> says that they'll take 
16 GB.  Since you still have the older RAM, it's an excellent troubleshooting 
step.
 
Later...
 
Tim Kilburn
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(with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
Fort McMurray, AB Canada
 
On Mar 14, 2019, at 12:06, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
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  MBP 13 inch 2012. Intel Core i7 2.9GHz 64bit. 16gig ram from Crucial (as is 
the SSD).

  I may have someone come over and swap the original 8gigs back in and test.

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On 3/14/2019 10:56 AM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries wrote:

Hi,
4 to 10% is nothing.  I have things taking 95% and don't have the choppiness 
issue.  Your CPU processes things simultaneously and sequentially sharing the 
load as tasks are required.  You can have a fast processor, but fewer cores, a 
fast SSD, but slow bus speed between the SSD and the CPU.  It's a complicated 
set of parameters that make things work in an optimal manner.  What model of 
Mac are you running again?  What is the CPU speed and RAM?  All under About 
this Mac if you need to know that.
Later...
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  No surprise. the top two processes are...
com.apple.speech.speechsynthesisd
and Voiceover.
  The top one was taking anywhere from 4 to 10 percent of CPU. Is there a way 
to optimize this? As noted earlier, I notice this only when I actually execute 
a VO command.
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Hi,
Try going into the Activity Monitor and seeing what's at the top of the list.  
Note which process is using up CPU resources.  I wouldn't suggest quitting the 
process yet, but take a look to see what might be messing with your system.
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Simon,
  I may have spoken too soon. Seems you and I are the only ones. It happened a 
lot in the Finder, but mostly when I run an app. It almost always happens, at 
random, when I press a VO command.
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On 3/12/2019 10:59 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:

I don't think it's a specs issue,
I was getting the same issue today on a mac book air that wasn't mine and would 
have had lower than average specifications.
I also get it on an imac and my own mac books as well,
I think along the lines that it's a voiceover issue
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    Some time ago I upgraded the 8gigs of ram to 16 on the MBP and swapped the 
spinning drive for the SSD.
    I don't recall if the issue with Voiceover existed before then. What 
happens is often when I am navigating the Mac, VO will sound like its being 
throttled back then comes back quickly. Its random, I never know when or what 
may trigger this.
    So I will have someone help me put the 8gigs back tomorrow and see if the 
issue clears up. But I am wondering if the SSD is automatically optimized or 
not. If not, can it be optimized?
    This happens even when I have done clean installs and have set things up 
from scratch but I am willing to try anything to run this down. Thoughts?
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