Simon, command option up or down is not a valid keystroke. You get exactly the same action with or without the option key. VO keyboard help does not recognize it.

   If you use tabs in Finder I think you will find it more efficient.

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On 1/1/2019 7:21 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Yeah which doesn't make sence as to what was being said because command N and 
command up / down aren't even close to each other.

  I think her wording is whats confusing us.
  Command option up / down will open / close folders rathe rthan windows or tab.

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Sent: Wednesday, 2 January 2019 4:14 PM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: cycling through windows in finder

     That would be command n.

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On 1/1/2019 7:03 PM, Simon Fogarty wrote:
Jonathan,

I can’t remember off the top of my head but is there even an option to
open a folder in a new window / tab within finder?

I’m using my windows machine right now so can’t at this time check this.

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<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> *On Behalf Of *Jonathan Cohn
*Sent:* Wednesday, 2 January 2019 3:31 PM
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*Subject:* Re: cycling through windows in finder

I still do not understand how you got several windows open. I know
your problem is resolved, but this might be a useful command for me on
occasion. So for the third time, can you please tell me what command
you used that opened a folder in a new window!

Thanks,

Jonathan Cohn



     On Jan 1, 2019, at 9:28 PM, Lorie McCloud <lorice...@gmail.com
     <mailto:lorice...@gmail.com>> wrote:

     oh ok. I guess I didn't make the distinction because I was having
     folders open in new windows. then when I cycled through them to get
     to the one that I wanted to copy something to all those that I had
     opened on my way somewhere would be open. yes they were folders but
     they were windows too.
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         On Jan 1, 2019, at 8:13 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
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         <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:

           In your original post you mentioned closing windows using
         command up and down. Therein lies the confusion that flummoxed
         several people.

           Command up and down opens and closes "folders", not "windows".
         You can also use right or left arrow to open and close folders
         when in list view.

           Option up and down goes to bottom or top of a list.

           There is no Command Option up and down. Hopefully we are on
         the same page.

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         On 1/1/2019 5:14 PM, Lorie McCloud wrote:

             that's exactly right. I mistakenly assumed that part was
             understood.
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                 On Jan 1, 2019, at 4:20 AM, Simon Fogarty
                 <si...@blinky-net.com <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:

                 Yeah sure this isn't anything unusual.

                 The command option up / down arrows allows you to go
                 forward and backwards between folders,

                 I use the option command up all the time to go back a
                 folder level on servers

                 But like what was said, I'm not sure where this command
                 comes in to relationship with copy and pasting
                 Unless you mean once you have the files selected and
                 you've hit command c
                 That you then use command option up / down to go to the
                 location you wish to paste the files into

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                 <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of
                 Lorie McCloud
                 Sent: Monday, 31 December 2018 7:07 PM
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                 Subject: Re: cycling through windows in finder

                 it's kind of hard to explain. when I want to cycle
                 through windows I use command-tilde. when I want to open
                 folders as I'm navigating to my desired destination,
                 that's when I use command-option-down arrow for open and
                 command-option-uparrow for close. I'm in list mode. I'll
                 have one window already open in say, downloads. then
                 I'll cycle to another window say in my external hard
                 drive. once I'm in there I need to navigate to the
                 folder where I'm going to copy or paste a file from
                 downloads. sometimes I have to go 2 or 3 deep to get to
                 the desired folder. then as I would cycle back through
                 the windows heading for downloads, I would hit every
                 window I had to open to get to the desired folder. I
                 wanted to find a way of reducing the number of windows I
                 had to cycle through. if I remember to use
                 command-option-down arrow as I'm navigating, that seems
                 to do the trick.
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                     On Dec 30, 2018, at 11:38 PM, M. Taylor
                     <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote:

                     Hello Lorie and thank you for this info.

                     However, I am not certain that I understand the
                     scenario to which you are referring.

                     For example, when I need to copy and paste files
                     between finder windows, I use Command+~.

                     I don't think I've ever used Command+UpArrow.

                     Can you please describe why and how this scenario
                     plays out in a sequence of steps?

                     Thank you,

                     Mark

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                     Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2018 8:54 PM
                     To: 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries
                     Subject: cycling through windows in finder

                     I figured out something I want to tell you all about
                     in case anybody's interested. I had been asking
                     about how to have most or all of the windows closed
                     except for the 2 that I wanted to copy and paste
                     between. I used to be able to do this but now all
                     the windows I was navigating through to get to my
                     destination had become part of the cycle. somebody
                     here mentioned opening and closing windows using
                     command-down and up arrows. I had been doing this
                     without the option and including it in the command
                     has cleared up the problem for me. it kind of closes
                     the door or window behind me.

                     Lorie

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