Yes Alex and Donna, I fully agree, I have to work with windows server based environments including powershell So using windows is the only way to do this with out getting major issues.
PS doesn’t seem to work through terminal connections From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin Sent: Wednesday, 6 December 2017 12:52 AM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: Windows vs Mac (was: new skype interface) Nicely stated, Alex. I agree with all points, including Windows having some advantages in web browsing. Cheers, donna On Dec 5, 2017, at 5:48 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com<mailto:mehg...@icloud.com>> wrote: Since we're all chiming in, here's my two cents. I use macOS and iOS at home, iOS more often since I can use it at work, too. For work, I use Windows 10 with NVDA. Both have their strengths; Windows can be better at web browsing for some applications, macOS is more stable and simpler to navigate. There are plenty of small problems with Windows and enough efficiencies on macOS to make me prefer the Mac overall, but Windows does do some things better. This is only the user interface. If you add integration with Apple's ecosystem, security, ability to have speech during setup/troubleshooting, build quality, voice selection, and other factors, the Mac wins hands down. But I can still see why some users would like Windows more, and I don't begrudge anyone their choice of platform. -- Alex Hall On Dec 5, 2017, at 06:38, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com<mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: I have to use Windows 10 at work, and I absolutely hate it. Just my $.02. Cheers, Donna On Dec 5, 2017, at 1:43 AM, Anders Holmberg <and...@pipkrokodil.se<mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote: Hi! There is a bit of to much interacting with stuff on mac but i guess this is the way things works. Windows 10 is something i would like to try especially now when you can install it for your self. /A 4 dec. 2017 kl. 02:11 skrev lenron brown <lenro...@gmail.com<mailto:lenro...@gmail.com>>: I am more in the windows camp. Love my win 10 baby. Fast and I can do every thing with out having to interact and all that annoying crap. Less keys to do things most of the time. I like my Mac sometimes but not enough to make me want to use the thing all the time. I was stuck with just it for a couple weeks and thought I was going to go nuts. I couldn't duel boot it because not a big enough harddrive and apple wants me to pay a lot of money to replace it. Wich is insane 400 dollars just to upgrade to a 512 gb ssd. That probably doesn't even cover how much they will cost me to replace it. I mean I probably could get someone to watch the Youtube video on how to do it and take a risk but not something I really want to do when we talking about that type of money. On 12/3/17, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com<mailto:jpanar...@gmail.com>> wrote: Me as well. I have to use Windows for a training contract and some other odds and ends, and it's more than enough to continue to remind me what a disaster that OS remains despite every new version. God, do I not miss viruses and malware and mysterious crashes every other day. Fifteen minutes on my Win 10 machine is all I need to remind me of how good I have it with my Macs. Take Care John D. Panarese Director Mac for the Blind Tel, (631) 724-4479 Email, j...@macfortheblind.com<mailto:j...@macfortheblind.com> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com<http://www.macfortheblind.com/> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL and Trainer AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT On Dec 3, 2017, at 5:59 PM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net<mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: I am the opposite, I would not even think of getting another windows machine, it provides all of the access I need out of the box, web browsing works great in both safari and chrome. On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:40 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: Well, I just got sick of waiting for the Mac to mature in terms of Braille support and PDF reading, and I’m not that thrilled with a Mail application or web browsing. I got my first Mac when the current system was snow leopard. That was a long time ago. And I really expected the system to have matured by now to the point where I would not even ever think about getting another Windows machine. That didn’t happen. I need both of those, and I don’t have them. So I’m back to windows. I still have a Mac, but it doesn’t get much use and I won’t buy another one. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:43 PM, Donna Goodin <doniado...@me.com<mailto:doniado...@me.com>> wrote: this is subjective, of course, but I think MS is MUCH worse. I use Windows at work, and most of the time it just drives me batty. I don't think MS is getting better at all. I'd still take Windows 7 over windows 10 any day of the year, and I have a sighted coworker who feels the same way. And so far, anyway, I'd take any Apple product over Microsoft, which is why I still haven't switched. Not that I'm crazy about all Apple's been doing lately, I just think they're still better than Microsoft. Cheers, Donna On Dec 3, 2017, at 1:26 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: No sense singling out Microsoft. Apple has been doing their share of the same thing recently. Microsoft is actually getting better, will apple is going the other way. None of them is perfect. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 3, 2017, at 11:21 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net<mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: Nice to know I'm not the only one who finds this annoying. This is a classic example of what happenes when you try to fix something that isn't broken, from Microsoft, it's not surprising though. On Dec 3, 2017, at 4:36 AM, Anne Robertson <a...@anarchie.org.uk<mailto:a...@anarchie.org.uk>> wrote: Hello Mike, I couldn’t make any sense of the new interface so I reverted to the previous one and turned off automatic updates. My husband, who is sighted, also reverted to the previous version as the new one lacks many of the facilities he uses. Apparently, there is quite a lot of criticism of MicroSoft’s treatement of Skype on the internet. Cheers, Anne On 3 Dec 2017, at 06:59, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net<mailto:n0...@charter.net>> wrote: Wondering if anyone else has tried the newest version of skype on the mac and if so, what do you think? Honestly I'm not too impressed, I've been able to figure it out but it takes much longer to find things now, there was nothing wrong with the previous interface, I'm not sure why the developers changed it. Just was wondering what everyone else thinks. -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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