Well, I guess I have no choice but to go with the flow. It is certainly easier 
than composing elsewhere and then cupying and pasting.
Thanks.
Christine


> On Nov 9, 2017, at 10:58 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> No, it's not natural for me either.  I often still revert back to VO 
> navigation within the composing area and mess things up.  This arrow 
> navigation is the best I can do for now.  I'm not sure if this is going to be 
> modified, or if this is the new way.  I've heard that there are some fixes 
> coming to Mail navigation, but I'm not exactly sure what aspects of the 
> experience they pertain to.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Nov 9, 2017, at 08:54, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Okay, I am going to use that method right now for moving about in this 
> message and attempting to change a word. 
> That does seem to work. I will certainly have to work at this; it is not 
> natural for me. :)
> Christine
> 
> P.S. Does anyone know what this mysterious message “empty group” refers to in 
> an empty email?
> 
>> On Nov 9, 2017, at 10:45 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I don't use QuickNav much, if at all, and still find similar frustrations as 
>> Christine, albeit, not to the same degree.  I've found that VO jumps to the 
>> beginning sometimes when I stop to think between typing.  the best thing 
>> I've found is to just not use VO navigation when composing eMails, that is, 
>> just arrow navigation.  Option-right/left navigates word by word, up/down 
>> goes line by line and right/left goes character by character.  Works for now.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 9, 2017, at 08:30, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I absolutely cannot edit in email, though I can edit fine in Text Edit or 
>> Pages. The cursor is never where it is supposed to be. I try to backspace or 
>> fix a typo, and I am never where I wish to be. Even if I interact and 
>> VoiceOver reads word by word, I am never on, or even before or after, the 
>> word being spoken. This is phenomenally frustrating, as I am constantly 
>> deleting the entire contents, writing emails elsewhere, thencutting and 
>> pasting. One think of note that might be relevant is that when I erase the 
>> entire contents, and am in the edit field, VoiceOver says “Empty Group” 
>> which I have never heard before in this context.
>> Christine
>> 
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