Hello,

to cycle quickly through edit fields, buttons, pop up boxes, etc, press VO 
command J and VO command shift J to go backwards.

hth  
On Dec 17, 2009, at 7:25 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> One thing you have to realize about Webkit is that, when using it, it uses 
> all your Safari bookmarks, settings, etc. It will look just like Safari, but 
> some things may work better or worse. You have to click on Webkit and open it 
> before it will actually use the latest Webkit. What I have done is put Webkit 
> on the dock. Of course, running Safari might make a difference from you. It 
> seems to have certain effects on certain configurations. For some people it 
> works great, and some people think it's a pain. You installed it the way 
> you're supposed to. Webkit isn't necessary to go on the internet, though. 
> Webkit might just work better on certain websites such as Ebay, or it might 
> work worse than the original Safari.
> 
> If you're wanting a quick toggle for DOM and Group view, go to the VoiceOver 
> Utility and hit C for Commanders when in the utilities category table. 
> VO-right until you hear Keyboard, and VO-Space to select it.
> 
> Vo-right again until you find the "Enable Keyboard COmmander" checkbox and 
> check it, then VO-Right and select which option key you would like to use.
> Next, you should find, if you VO-Right, a "Keyboard Commander" table. This is 
> where all your commands will show up.
> Click the "Add" button.
> When you click that button, you will end up in an edit field that says 
> "Blank". Enter the letter you would like to use, and VO-Right once and you 
> should have focus on a menu button. VO-Space on that button, and you will 
> enter a menu.
> Here, you will have different categories for the certain commands available 
> to you for quick toggling and so-forth. Hit W for the Web submenu, and right 
> arrow once to enter this menu.
> Hit up arrow once and you should hear "Toggle Web Navigation DOM or Group". 
> Hit Enter.
> 
> You're all done. Now, you can stop interacting with the table It will 
> automatically interact with the table when you're done with adding a command.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> As for getting to an edit field quickly, Option-Tab seems to toggle between 
> certain controls if you have that option set. IF not, do the following:
> 
> 1. Open up your browser. This applies to Safari or Webkit.
> 2. Hit Command-Comma for preferences, and click the "Advanced" button.
> 3. Check the box that says "Press tab to highlight each item on a web-page".
> Now you can use Option-Tab to highlight all items except links.
> 
> Concerning selecting on web-pages. I've found this to be incredibly unstable, 
> actually. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. The majority of the time 
> I use it, it never works. So I've never bothered. At least, I don't anymore.
> 
> Regards,
> Nic
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> On Dec 17, 2009, at 1:07 PM, blind Treasures wrote:
> 
>> Now that I've kind of got the network issue figured out enough to at least
>> use it, I'm moving onto the internet. LOL 
>> I downloaded and install the webkit from webkit.org but every time I run it,
>> the Imac seems to freeze up and I have to reboot. I can use the vo f5 to
>> unload and reload voice over and all I hear is safari.
>> This is the steps I took to install it:
>> 1. Downloaded it 
>> 2. Moved over to the download folder and open it which created a folder on
>> the desktop 
>> 3. Navigated over to the desktop and copied the webkit app to my app folder 
>> 4. opened it to run it 
>> 5. Seems to lock up the Mac 
>> What am I doing wrong here?
>> Do I need to run it every time or does safari automatically utilize it when
>> your on the web?
>> Next question is how can I toggle from DOM view to Group view on a page?
>> Besides using the rotor, is there a short cut key for going to an edit field
>> quickly?
>> Lastly, how do you go about selecting items from your cursor to the bottom
>> of the page?
>> Thanks as usual for all the wonderful help this list provides.
>> 
>> Tony 
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