On Nov 9, 2016, at 4:19 AM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> wrote:
One correction, if memory serves, once a person is registered to vote in a
specific location, they remain registered until they miss a US Presidential
election. After missing a Presidential election, the person needs to
reregister. Therefore, a dead person will only remain on the voter roles until
after the next Presidential election.
As for the example about the prestuffed metal balet box, There are a few cities
which were known for this behavior. Chicago and New York City both come to mind
as large practitioners of this practice, between 1890 and 1915. In both of
these cities, the democrats were caught doing so. In fact, it was the practice
in New York City which earned the dems the monicker of the donkey and the
republicans the elephant by press cartoonists.
All that said, both parties were caught using such practices at various times
and in various localities. This is all well-documented in US history.
Kind regards,
David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA
Email: dchitten...@gmail.com
Mobile: +64 21 2288 288
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On 9/11/2016, at 07:42, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi, Alex is right we should stick to the topic. Remember I did try to leave
politics out of it and just encourage people to flex their voting muscles no
matter how they wished.;)
To answer your question though since it’s a great question, no we have no such
requirement. Once you register to vote you’re registered. Now there are
things that happen for example if a death certificate is issued that registry
entry should be removed but in practicality that doesn’t always happen. It
really depends on the individual state. In some states you don’t even have to
show identification to vote, in others you do. In some states they have early
voting meaning you can vote early either at a polling place or via mail. In
other states you have election day only. Florida is an example where you can
vote early, Michigan is an example where you can only vote on election day.
There’s been a provision in Texas state law that you can vote from space.:)
(Astronauts being Houston Texas residents have a provision to vote
electronically from the space station as an example) SO things differ. TO my
knowledge though there’s no need to check in every year.
Great question.
To bring this squarely on topic though, I wish there was a way to vote securely
online. I realize that’s very difficult to do safely but how nice would it be
to just fire up the old iPad or laptop and vote. We could be a lot more direct
instead of so representative like we are now but the security of such a thing
just couldn’t be guarantied.
On Nov 8, 2016, at 1:34 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
To tell you the truth and I'm being honest here, I love it when things go
wrong. I laugh.
You are right Scott, the BBC and other News channels hype things up. It will
be as it will be tomorrow. Whatever the case, there has to be a loser.
Just one last thing. Here in the UK every year you have to let your local
authority know if you live in the same place so that you don't have to register
again to vote. I'd think they would do that in the US.
By the way, I just like to know things for my knowledge and not to spark anger
or nastiness so those who say that this conversation is going to turn nasty, I
beg to differ.
I've had my say so we can get talking about Apple etc.
Thank you.
Kawal.
On 8 Nov 2016, at 18:13, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
Kawal, so much for trying to keep this apolitical. That aside, the sad fact is
there is a real case to be made for the election being fixed.
1. There are over 24 million registered voters who shouldn’t be. These are
either people who are not citizens, people who are dead, people who are
registered in more than one location and so forth.
Next, there have already been cases of people’s votes being misrecorded on
file. In Texas for example, there have been cases of trump votes being changed
to Clinton votes by the software.
Now to be fair and balanced, on the republican side, there have been cases
made for voter suppression especially of the African American vote.
Some examples of presidents who were elected via fraud include John F. Kennedy
and Lindon Johnson. The corruption in Chicago famously assisted JFK in his
election bid. LBJ also benefited from fraud in Texas. So, there’s an actual
verifiable history of this in the country.
We also have video tape of democratic operatives this year advising the Clinton
folks how to circumvent the voter registration system and how to bus people in
to areas with out being detected.
Now, all that being said there’s some good news in this front as well. More
people are watching than ever before. There are 800 government operatives
fanning out across the country to verify the integrity of the election. On top
of this there are thousands of volunteers on both sides and individual
themselves are being more vigilant in insuring their votes are recorded
correctly. So in the end I think this will not be a problem.
I can tell Kawal though that you need to really broaden your media sources.
The idea of voter fraud is not a conspiracy theory or off balance, there’s a
long history of it including in recent times. Do I need to remind you about
the 2000 election? You may not be familiar but there were real shenanigans
during that election. I’m not sure how much play that got in the UK but whole
blocks of ballots turned up uncounted and some even washed up on shore.;) So
neither party has the monopoly on truth or honesty. Most of the claims that
you’ve made about Trump though are factually untrue which leads me to think
you’re getting a lot of that government spoon fed BBC media which is in
collusion with the media in this country. Likewise there's probably a lot
about Hilary that hasn’t made it your way do to the same filtering.
Unfortunately, the days of Walter Cronkite and a certain level of impartial
journalism are dead. Fox news is as guilty of slanting their side of the story
as is the BBC and big 3 American TV networks, we won’t even discuss the papers.
It’s very difficult to get reliable news and important now more than ever to
use multiple sources with diverse viewpoints and then interpolate the truth
from diverse sources.
On Nov 8, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote:
If trump does not get his way he'll say the election was rigged and if he does
not accept the vote, where then for America?
On 8 Nov 2016, at 15:34, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Scott,
I agree!
extra size your rite to Vote!
Many people died to keep us free!
Yes my Dad shed his "blood" fighting the socialist in germany to assure us this
basic freedom here in the USA
GOD Bless the USA! :)
the land of the free and the home of the brave!
Chuck
On Nov 8, 2016, at 6:50 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
For our friends in the US,
Totally apolitical here and please please let’s keep it that way. Get out
there and vote today, do your civic duty regardless of your party / candidate /
beliefs just get out and have your voice heard if you haven’t already.
Uber is offering a $20 credit for a trip to your polling place, Lyft has a
similar deal with up to $45 in credits, and Google also has the means to
arrange a ride for you and provide some credits to get to your closest polls.
the parties are offering rides and volunteer services as well.
Also, make sure you take advantage of the deals available today to voters.
Keep that “I voted” sticker and Krispy Cream will give you a free donut,
McDonalds and Seven Eleven are giving free coffee, and many small businesses
are having election day promotions that include discounts or out right freebies.
Remember that many service men and women have fought and died for your right
to vote so let’s not let them down and make sure we take advantage of our most
powerful expression of our freedom, our right to vote. Now get out there and
be safe everyone.
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