To tell you the truth and I'm being honest here, I love it when things go wrong. I laugh.
You are right Scott, the BBC and other News channels hype things up. It will be as it will be tomorrow. Whatever the case, there has to be a loser. Just one last thing. Here in the UK every year you have to let your local authority know if you live in the same place so that you don't have to register again to vote. I'd think they would do that in the US. By the way, I just like to know things for my knowledge and not to spark anger or nastiness so those who say that this conversation is going to turn nasty, I beg to differ. I've had my say so we can get talking about Apple etc. Thank you. Kawal. > On 8 Nov 2016, at 18:13, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Kawal, so much for trying to keep this apolitical. That aside, the sad fact > is there is a real case to be made for the election being fixed. > > 1. There are over 24 million registered voters who shouldn’t be. These are > either people who are not citizens, people who are dead, people who are > registered in more than one location and so forth. > > Next, there have already been cases of people’s votes being misrecorded on > file. In Texas for example, there have been cases of trump votes being > changed to Clinton votes by the software. > > Now to be fair and balanced, on the republican side, there have been > cases made for voter suppression especially of the African American vote. > > Some examples of presidents who were elected via fraud include John F. > Kennedy and Lindon Johnson. The corruption in Chicago famously assisted JFK > in his election bid. LBJ also benefited from fraud in Texas. So, there’s an > actual verifiable history of this in the country. > > We also have video tape of democratic operatives this year advising the > Clinton folks how to circumvent the voter registration system and how to bus > people in to areas with out being detected. > > Now, all that being said there’s some good news in this front as well. More > people are watching than ever before. There are 800 government operatives > fanning out across the country to verify the integrity of the election. On > top of this there are thousands of volunteers on both sides and individual > themselves are being more vigilant in insuring their votes are recorded > correctly. So in the end I think this will not be a problem. > > I can tell Kawal though that you need to really broaden your media sources. > The idea of voter fraud is not a conspiracy theory or off balance, there’s a > long history of it including in recent times. Do I need to remind you about > the 2000 election? You may not be familiar but there were real shenanigans > during that election. I’m not sure how much play that got in the UK but > whole blocks of ballots turned up uncounted and some even washed up on > shore.;) So neither party has the monopoly on truth or honesty. Most of the > claims that you’ve made about Trump though are factually untrue which leads > me to think you’re getting a lot of that government spoon fed BBC media which > is in collusion with the media in this country. Likewise there's probably a > lot about Hilary that hasn’t made it your way do to the same filtering. > Unfortunately, the days of Walter Cronkite and a certain level of impartial > journalism are dead. Fox news is as guilty of slanting their side of the > story as is the BBC and big 3 American TV networks, we won’t even discuss the > papers. It’s very difficult to get reliable news and important now more than > ever to use multiple sources with diverse viewpoints and then interpolate the > truth from diverse sources. > >> On Nov 8, 2016, at 11:20 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kgli...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >> If trump does not get his way he'll say the election was rigged and if he >> does not accept the vote, where then for America? >>> On 8 Nov 2016, at 15:34, CHUCK REICHEL <soundpicturerecord...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Scott, >>> I agree! >>> extra size your rite to Vote! >>> Many people died to keep us free! >>> Yes my Dad shed his "blood" fighting the socialist in germany to assure us >>> this basic freedom here in the USA >>> GOD Bless the USA! :) >>> the land of the free and the home of the brave! >>> Chuck >>> >>> >>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 6:50 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> >>>> For our friends in the US, >>>> Totally apolitical here and please please let’s keep it that way. 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