The satellite stuff is getting better, that’s what I mentioned earlier.  It’s 
equivalent to 4G service now and Directv is coming out with something that will 
be pretty good in comparison to what’s available.

As a side note I always wanted olive in Alaska, that sounds like a pretty 
interesting place to be.  I knew someone working for the forest service who had 
a t1 line run in just to terminate a phone for hundreds of miles from a city.  
Crazy to imagine.


> On Nov 8, 2016, at 7:55 PM, Michael Babcock <mich...@yourownpay.com> wrote:
> 
> The other aspect of this is when I was living in Alaska, we used  satellite 
> Internet which had limitations on the bandwidth. There  was not sell phone 
> service, so the only logistical wait to make a backup of your phone would be 
> to use a hardwire and back up it to your computer. That's what has gotten me 
> into the routine of making weekly back ups through iTunes.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Nov 8, 2016, at 12:39 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland 
>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Actually, Tim, no offense taken whatsoever. You actually make some 
>> incredibly valid points, and you're right. I admit, I didn't even think 
>> about those things.
>> ---
>> Christopher Gilland
>> JAWS Certified, 2016.
>> Training Instructor.
>> 
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>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Kilburn" <kilbu...@me.com>
>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2016 10:23 AM
>> Subject: Re: Here's an interesting question for all iOS users
>> 
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> A couple of things to consider.  We often look at the world from our own 
>> prospective, and forget that there are numerous other scenarios.
>> 
>> 1.  Cell signals and Internet access in the US and many other countries is 
>> quite common and fairly robust, especially in larger centres.  consider 
>> though rural and more remote locales though.  On the 5 hour drive from Fort 
>> McMurray to the nearest city, we encounter numerous dead zones.  The towns, 
>> if you can call them that, do have Internet, but nothing like the cities. 
>> Many of the farmers still need to use dial up or cell data plans to have 
>> Internet access, if they can even get a quality cell signal.  There are many 
>> countries or areas around the world that have a much different Internet 
>> infrastructure than what many of us are accustomed to.
>> 
>> 2.  Internet data charges vary considerably from country to country making 
>> it important to think economically with respect to data use.  Connecting to 
>> your computer therefore saves both data usage and money when transferring 
>> between devices.  Yes, there are WiFi solutions of transferring between 
>> devices, but they tend to be less reliable than the USB wired solutions at 
>> this point.
>> 
>> 3.  Transferring large files like HD movies is considerably faster through 
>> USB than it is over the air, so time considerations are also a factor.
>> 
>> I'm mostly just saying that we need to consider outside our own bubble, the 
>> world is a different beast.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 20:46, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Not really, the cloud design at Apple is quite sound.
>> 
>> The only time I use the backup feature and hard wire is for an encrypted 
>> backup if I’m going to erase the phone which I haven’t had to do for years. 
>> Also the first time configuration for enabling WiFi sync.  Other than that 
>> absolutely 100% cloud based.
>> 
>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 6:22 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> What is a cloud but vapor anyway? Given the right conditions, that can 
>>> translate to Poof!
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> Without H2O there is no life!
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> 
>>>> On 11/7/2016 3:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
>>>> Again, I know there are those times like you say, an incrypted backup,
>>>> etc. when USB would be necessary. I wasn't saying throw the baby totally
>>>> out with the bathwater. I more just meant is it something where most
>>>> things, you really don't need to plug it in via USB anymore.
>>>> ---
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>>>> Training Instructor.
>>>> 
>>>> i...@gillandmarketing.com <mailto:i...@gillandmarketing.com>
>>>> Phone: (704) 256-8010.
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> *From:* michael babcock <mailto:michael.babcoc...@gmail.com>
>>>> *To:* macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Monday, November 07, 2016 6:14 PM
>>>> *Subject:* Re: Here's an interesting question for all iOS users
>>>> 
>>>> Secure encrypted backups
>>>> e.g. if you don’t want to have to enter your passwords into apps again.
>>>> correct me if i’m wrong, however iCloud backups aren’t keeping all
>>>> passwords where as a local backup can.
>>>> also, what happens if iCloud was hacked, or unavailable, or is
>>>> something apple wanted to shut down.
>>>> :)
>>>> I personally keep local copies  of my backups just in case.
>>>> once per week.
>>>> hth
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 7, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
>>>>> <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let me start by saying two things:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1. I realize entirely that my question is very subjective.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2. I further understand that there really is no right or wrong
>>>>> answer to this. I'm asking more just out of curiosity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, here tgos.
>>>>> 
>>>>> So... now adays with so much stuff regarding Apple happening in
>>>>> the cloud, I often ask myself: is there really much reason now
>>>>> adays to sync your iOS device with ITunes on the mac? How many of
>>>>> you really don't connect your phone to the mac unless it's
>>>>> absolutely necessary?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I mean, think about it like this. You get a wallblock charger with
>>>>> all new iPhones, (key word, new,) as well as iPads. OK, for iPods,
>>>>> I could see it, as I don't think, unless things have changed which
>>>>> is highly probabal, they came with the apple block transformer.
>>>>> But either way, there really isn't much need anymore with Apple
>>>>> Music to sync music across your device, as music can automatically
>>>>> come down to your device anyway over the ICloud Music library, and
>>>>> even if you don't! have Apple Music, you still have the ICloud
>>>>> music library, so if it's something where you rip a CD we'll just
>>>>> say, it would still upload it to your library, provided you have
>>>>> things set correctly, thereby making it appear on your iOS device.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You really don't need to use ITunes to sync photos and videos
>>>>> anymore, as you have the iCloud photo library. All purchased and
>>>>> rented movies as well as TV shows are in the cloud, same goes with
>>>>> books from IBooks.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You can do iOS updates usually over the air, (OTA,) so there
>>>>> really isn't a need to do them from ITunes.
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, I get that there are those few instances like putting the
>>>>> device into DFU mode and installing betas, or downgrading from
>>>>> betas. I also get that sometimes, you may want to download the
>>>>> whole iOS OS and restore. I also get you may want to make
>>>>> occasional backups locally to ITunes. But even that! you can do
>>>>> ICloud backups. I mean, pretty much everything is going to the cloud.
>>>>> 
>>>>> You even now can set it so that if you download an app or
>>>>> song/album from the ITunes store on the mac, it'll automatically
>>>>> download to your device seemlessly.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I won't go into the details, but a friend of mine is having an
>>>>> issue where things are downloading to his device automatically
>>>>> that he didn't suspect would automatically download. Through
>>>>> talking to him, it's just kind a got me thinking a bit on a
>>>>> totally unrelated note how necessary this really is. I mean, for
>>>>> the most part, do you really have to use USB aside from those very
>>>>> rare occasions, or would I be doing myself a favor to free up that
>>>>> USB port for something more valuable like a flash drive, or even
>>>>> better, maybe my braille display, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris.
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