Actually, Tim, no offense taken whatsoever. You actually make some incredibly valid points, and you're right. I admit, I didn't even think about those things.
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Hi,

A couple of things to consider. We often look at the world from our own prospective, and forget that there are numerous other scenarios.

1. Cell signals and Internet access in the US and many other countries is quite common and fairly robust, especially in larger centres. consider though rural and more remote locales though. On the 5 hour drive from Fort McMurray to the nearest city, we encounter numerous dead zones. The towns, if you can call them that, do have Internet, but nothing like the cities. Many of the farmers still need to use dial up or cell data plans to have Internet access, if they can even get a quality cell signal. There are many countries or areas around the world that have a much different Internet infrastructure than what many of us are accustomed to.

2. Internet data charges vary considerably from country to country making it important to think economically with respect to data use. Connecting to your computer therefore saves both data usage and money when transferring between devices. Yes, there are WiFi solutions of transferring between devices, but they tend to be less reliable than the USB wired solutions at this point.

3. Transferring large files like HD movies is considerably faster through USB than it is over the air, so time considerations are also a factor.

I'm mostly just saying that we need to consider outside our own bubble, the world is a different beast.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Nov 7, 2016, at 20:46, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:

Not really, the cloud design at Apple is quite sound.

The only time I use the backup feature and hard wire is for an encrypted backup if I’m going to erase the phone which I haven’t had to do for years. Also the first time configuration for enabling WiFi sync. Other than that absolutely 100% cloud based.

On Nov 7, 2016, at 6:22 PM, E.T. <ancient.ali...@icloud.com> wrote:

What is a cloud but vapor anyway? Given the right conditions, that can translate to Poof!

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Without H2O there is no life!
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On 11/7/2016 3:18 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Again, I know there are those times like you say, an incrypted backup,
etc. when USB would be necessary. I wasn't saying throw the baby totally
out with the bathwater. I more just meant is it something where most
things, you really don't need to plug it in via USB anymore.
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  *Subject:* Re: Here's an interesting question for all iOS users

  Secure encrypted backups
  e.g. if you don’t want to have to enter your passwords into apps again.
  correct me if i’m wrong, however iCloud backups aren’t keeping all
  passwords where as a local backup can.
  also, what happens if iCloud was hacked, or unavailable, or is
  something apple wanted to shut down.
  :)
  I personally keep local copies  of my backups just in case.
  once per week.
  hth

  On Nov 7, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
  <clgillan...@gmail.com <mailto:clgillan...@gmail.com>> wrote:

  Let me start by saying two things:

  1. I realize entirely that my question is very subjective.

  2. I further understand that there really is no right or wrong
  answer to this. I'm asking more just out of curiosity.

  So, here tgos.

  So... now adays with so much stuff regarding Apple happening in
  the cloud, I often ask myself: is there really much reason now
  adays to sync your iOS device with ITunes on the mac? How many of
  you really don't connect your phone to the mac unless it's
  absolutely necessary?

  I mean, think about it like this. You get a wallblock charger with
  all new iPhones, (key word, new,) as well as iPads. OK, for iPods,
  I could see it, as I don't think, unless things have changed which
  is highly probabal, they came with the apple block transformer.
  But either way, there really isn't much need anymore with Apple
  Music to sync music across your device, as music can automatically
  come down to your device anyway over the ICloud Music library, and
  even if you don't! have Apple Music, you still have the ICloud
  music library, so if it's something where you rip a CD we'll just
  say, it would still upload it to your library, provided you have
  things set correctly, thereby making it appear on your iOS device.

  You really don't need to use ITunes to sync photos and videos
  anymore, as you have the iCloud photo library. All purchased and
  rented movies as well as TV shows are in the cloud, same goes with
  books from IBooks.

  You can do iOS updates usually over the air, (OTA,) so there
  really isn't a need to do them from ITunes.

  OK, I get that there are those few instances like putting the
  device into DFU mode and installing betas, or downgrading from
  betas. I also get that sometimes, you may want to download the
  whole iOS OS and restore. I also get you may want to make
  occasional backups locally to ITunes. But even that! you can do
  ICloud backups. I mean, pretty much everything is going to the cloud.

  You even now can set it so that if you download an app or
  song/album from the ITunes store on the mac, it'll automatically
  download to your device seemlessly.

  I won't go into the details, but a friend of mine is having an
  issue where things are downloading to his device automatically
  that he didn't suspect would automatically download. Through
  talking to him, it's just kind a got me thinking a bit on a
  totally unrelated note how necessary this really is. I mean, for
  the most part, do you really have to use USB aside from those very
  rare occasions, or would I be doing myself a favor to free up that
  USB port for something more valuable like a flash drive, or even
  better, maybe my braille display, etc.

  Chris.

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