Hi Mark, Matt means that if you double tap in a text field that has content in it, you'll either hear "insertion point at start" or "insertion point at end". Double tapping in the same field again toggles the insertion point and VoiceOver message to the other setting -- if it's at "start" and you double tap it will be changed to "end" and vice-versa.
There is an iPhone User guide in HTML format at: http://help.apple.com/iphone/voiceover/ I keep a link to the sections on Accessiblity that start at: http://help.apple.com/iphone/3/voiceover/en/iphddd0e033.html You might want to read through sections under the "VoiceOver" link, including the section on "Entering and Editing Text". HTH. Incidentally, there is a VIPhone list that you can subscribe to. The web page is: http://groups.google.com/group/viphone and you can use item chooser menu to find the link for "Apply for group membership". Cheers, Esther Mark Gilland wrote: > Wait a minute. When you say it's a toggle, I guess I'm a little > confused. > what exactly is it you're toggling? The insertion being where you > can type > or not? Sorry, just slightly confused. Here's something else: If! I > double tap on a field to put my insertion point there, then, will > that! > automatically put me at the end of the text if there's anything > there, or > normally would I be at the beginning, or does that really depend on > where in > the box my finger happens to land when I hover over it. > > Chris. > > > ? ????? t?? Te?? µe sa?. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Matt Roberts" <n9gmr...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 12:18 PM > Subject: Re: Need some help with my new IPod touch > > > You double tap in the area of the field you selected. This is a > toggle. > > Matt Roberts > > Sent from my iPhone using VoiceOver > > On Dec 6, 2009, at 7:59 AM, "Mark Gilland" <clgillan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> ok, so how do I go to the end of the text field once I've double >> tapped in >> it? >> >> Chris. >> >> >> ? ????? t?? Te?? 畫 sa?. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Scott Howell" <scottn3...@gmail.com> >> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >> Sent: Sunday, December 06, 2009 6:42 AM >> Subject: Re: Need some help with my new IPod touch >> >> >> First the autocap or autocorrection being on/off will have no affect >> on >> password fields and only really makes a difference when typing. I >> actually >> find both useful, so try them both as well to see if it is helpful >> and yes >> it is a personal choice. >> VoiceOver will tell you if there is anything in the password field >> and in >> fact will state how many characters, but of course not what those >> characters >> are. If you double tap on the field, you will be told if your at the >> beginning or end of the field. If you want to edit a password field, >> my >> advice is just go to the end and erase everything with the delete >> key. THe >> delete function will delete the character to the left of wherever >> you are. >> Since I have not used Skype or Facebook on my iPhone, I can't >> comment on how >> either behaves if differently from other applications I've used. >> Btw, yes, the audio through the speaker is not the highest quality, >> but then >> considering how thin the iPod Touch is, it is not that bad. :) >> >> Hopefully this helps you some and others who use either or both apps >> might >> have other thoughts. I've ben using my iPhone for about a month and >> a half >> and really like it. >> On Dec 6, 2009, at 6:21 AM, Mark Gilland wrote: >> >>> Yes guies, especially Mr. Babcock... I finally bit the bullet. I >>> actually? >>> diddit. I went yesterday to Best Buy with some left over money this >>> month, >>> and got me an IPod Touch 32GB. I love this thing, however, I'm >>> having a >>> slight issue. Mike Origo, if you're on this list, not sure if you >>> are, I >>> listened to the podcast done on bct and Tthat helped me ee? >>> mensely! get >>> up >>> and running. The only problem I'm still having is typing. Now, I >>> know >>> you >>> all never said typing on this thang wasn't a beast and a half. >>> Typing as >>> in, finding the letters with my finger etc. is fairly easy, but I >>> notice a >>> few problems and I am hoping one of you all either with a touch, or >>> an >>> IPhone can give me a fe hints here. >>> >>> First of all: how does one know if the edit box you're typing in is >>> empty? >>> Eww, btw, I just on another note had my alarm clock go off on the >>> thing. >>> As >>> I set it last night, to wake me up for church, although I'm sadly, >>> already >>> up. just let me say the default sound is gr'r'r'r'roass! You >>> can't even >>> hardly hear the thing through the speakers. >>> >>> Anyway, getting back to what I was saying: Yeah, I just don't know >>> if the >>> fields, especially password fields are empty when I double tappem. >>> Which >>> leads me to my next question. >>> >>> I'm gonna be really specific here. >>> >>> I went to >>> >>> skype.com >>> >>> I then started flicking to the right, and eventually, I did find >>> the link >>> to >>> get skype for IPod/IPhone. I thought, being my earphones does have >>> the >>> apple mike on it, that this would be really cool to try. So I >>> stepped my >>> way through, double tapped the get free button, it asked for my >>> ITunes >>> store >>> pwd. Now, obviously, I'm not gonna say what that is, but, I slid >>> around >>> my >>> finger, found the letters, put it in, hit I think it's ok, or does >>> it say >>> go, don't recall but anyway, I accepted what I typed and dismissed >>> the >>> keyboard off the screen. It then popped up and said my pwd is >>> incorrect, >>> which I darn well know! is not the case. I use the store so >>> regularly on >>> my pc, that I know my pwd like the back of my hand. Yes, the e-mail >>> address >>> was filled in, and was correct. BTW, I was in portret orientation >>> when I >>> did this. I don't know if landscape would have made it easier. >>> The other >>> thing is, when I double tap on delete, on the keyboard, is it >>> deleting the >>> letter it says, or is it saying delete, folloed by where the >>> insertion >>> point >>> actually is focused. >>> >>> ok, the one final thing is, >>> >>> I went to >>> >>> m.facebook.com >>> >>> I put my phone number in for the e-mail or phone, just as I thought >>> that >>> would be easier, and being my phone is registered, I thought that >>> wouled >>> ya >>> know... >>> >>> Anyway... I then hit go. It said web page loaded. I then when >>> down to >>> the >>> password text field, and double tapped. I then proceeded to put >>> that in >>> and >>> hit go. >>> >>> I then when down below the two fields and double tapped on log in. >>> >>> Well, at that point it said web page loaded, however, I was on the >>> same >>> web >>> page. this leads me to think again, it didn't like the pwd. I >>> know I >>> know >>> these, as again, I use FB all the frickin time! I'm thinking the >>> IPod's >>> doing something kurfunkity when I try to type. I know that >>> sometimes when >>> I >>> try to double tap, it takes it as a flicik up or down. I wonder if >>> that's >>> cause I have too heavy of a finger. I do have fairly big hands. >>> and >>> fairly >>> big fingers. I mean they're not macho, by no means, but they're a >>> slight >>> bit bigger than average. I'm almost having to use the backside of >>> my >>> finger >>> on the nail instead of the fingertip pad to keep it from taking me >>> as a >>> flick. It depends though where on the screen I am. Sometimes it >>> works, >>> but >>> sometimes it doesn't. I do have auto correction turned off, and I >>> also >>> have >>> auto capitalization turned off. So, yeah, I'm admittedly quite >>> perplexed. >>> I mean, unless I'm putting in pwd's the typing seems to be fine as >>> long as >>> I >>> don't make a typo. Editting, I haven't totally learned yet. Does >>> the >>> roder >>> when set to edit mean you're jumping edit field by text edit field, >>> or >>> does >>> that mean as you flick up and down it's gonna actually then select! >>> text, >>> etc. Right now and usually I got the roter set to characters. And >>> yes, I >>> do know how to change it if needed. >>> >>> For not even 24hrs having this thing, I think I'm doing well, but, >>> without >>> being able to type and edit properly, that is gonna make things >>> very hard. >>> I wish someone maybe could do an mp3 demonstrating a bit more how >>> to type >>> when on the net, or in mail, or what not, and maybe demonstrate >>> putting in >>> a >>> pwd. >>> >>> On another note: I found a freeware app that yall may like if you >>> haven't >>> tried it. it's really really good if you have a wi fi or cell >>> internet >>> connection. Go either to the app store on the device, or in >>> ITunes, and >>> search for >>> >>> iheart radio. >>> >>> You'll love it, trust me. Basically, there are over 3000 or so, >>> radio >>> stations from the US in it and you can stream them straight to the >>> device. >>> You can add the station, I think! as a favorite, and can also set >>> it to >>> determine your current location, and from there give you local >>> stations in >>> your area, or of corse you can browse by format, personality, city, >>> or >>> featured stations. So far from what I can see, the app is totally! >>> accessible. The only problem with it I am finding and this might >>> jsut be >>> I >>> don't know how to do it, but the only way to stop it from playing >>> entirely >>> is to hit the home key and exit the app. a double two-finger tap >>> doesn't >>> seem to do it like it does with music, etc. >>> >>> Anyway yall let me know. >>> >>> I really wanna use facebook and twitter on this thing, but I can't >>> as I >>> can't figure out how to get the pwd in there right. 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