Yes, this seems to be the top end device now. I have to say, mine is really growing on me.
There’s a smoothness about it with my 6s+ running IOS 10 that’s missing in the legend. Weird stuff is gone like music starting randomly and the lag seems improved. Still there a little but no where near the lag of the edge for example. Siri also works very well and doesn’t cut off sometimes. It’s not a revolutionary update but it’s just a smoothing out of some of the few rough edges of the legend. Remember, I’m a very very picky bluetooth person so when I say rough edges most others would probably not even notice or care the things I’m talking about are very minimal differences but when you add them up the experience with the 5220 is just more enjoyable as a whole. > On Sep 7, 2016, at 2:16 AM, Simon Fogarty <si...@blinky-net.com> wrote: > > So Scott, > > Has this taken over as the top of the Plantronics BT Headsets? > > I’m thinking of mone that will allow me to do both UC and standard BT > communications. > > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Scott Granados > Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2016 2:50 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the > iPhone seven > > Mary, for some reason the 5220 is over $50 cheaper than amazon in Best Buy > stores. Haven’t checked their web but in the store it self they were at a > deeper discount than you can get them online. Also make sure you are looking > at the right one. There’s a UC model for communications systems that I think > includes a dongle. You just want the base model. (non UC) > > Not sure if that helps. > > On Sep 5, 2016, at 12:12 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com > <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Well nuts. I just saw one Amazon wants for that headset, and it is expensive! > By the way, the protocol or whenever you want to call it that I have been > talking about isaptx. It's an alternative compression method. I just found > an article that's two years old, which is why am not bothering to link it. > I'm sure there must be more advanced more current articles that will tell > more about it and whether it's worth anything. But back to that 5220 headset. > I sought on Amazon for a whopping $180. I don't think so. I would love to > have something with the characteristics you described. But the price needs to > come down a bit. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 4, 2016, at 8:45 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net > <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: > > Nope, still have the legend. I have a pile of bluetooth headsets you could > open a phone store with.:) It seems snappier than the Legend. > > Another thing is the transitions from say handsfree to A2DP with voiceover > are much faster. > > > On Sep 4, 2016, at 11:02 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com > <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Did you try the Beta with your legend? Or did you get rid of the legend? > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net > <mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: > > I can confirm with the iPhone 6s+ running IOS beta 10 the lag is almost non > existent when paired with the new Plantronics 5220. I’m not sure if it’s the > phone or the headset taking the difference but the combination is pretty > snappy. > > On Sep 3, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org > <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote: > > Hi Mary, it's an attempt to solve the problem in that the Griffin device has > a 3.5mm jack. But you then pair the device to your iPhone using Bluetooth > 4.1. So depending on the Bluetooth stack in the iPhone 7, we could hit the > latency issues that we all know about with VO and BT devices. > If the Bluetooth stack is significantly improved, it could be a work-around > of sorts, although of course you've then got yourself in the position where > you have to remember to keep your 3.5 jack charged, which hardly represents > progress. For people who keep VO talking for long periods, time between > charges may not be that long. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> > > On 4/09/2016, at 6:15 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com > <mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > That wouldn't seem to address this problem at all. It requires a headphone > jack. Maybe it's a nice device, but not for this issue. > Mary > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net > <mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: > > Ah yes, you are talking about the Griffin addapter which will turn any 3.5MM > headphone in to a blue tooth set. They will sell it for 19.99 I believe. > > https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter > <https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter> > > This may not solve all of what some believe may be a problem, but, at least > someone is trying. > > > > > Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind > built-in > > Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray > Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!! > > > On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com > <mailto:terjestrmb...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > A few weeks back, i red about a chineeze company or maybe japaneese who had a > dummy adapter for later manufacture. This was an adapter with both lightning > port and 3.5mm jack. > > Take care > > > > 1. sep. 2016 kl. 10.28 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org > <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>>: > > I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a huge > negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope the > inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did this and > reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New Zealand. I'm > the only blind person there, and people are justifiably livid about the > removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want this, and I suspect > based on what has leaked that the benefits to most people of upgrading will > be so incremental that the lack of a headphone jack will cause a lot of > people to sit it out. > That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, because > one thing that this process has taught me since I started blogging about the > possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm at a time when it may > have made a difference, is that I was naive to think that blind people might > be any more sensitive to and respectful of the accessibility needs of others, > such as the hearing impaired. I guess I would like to think that since we > know what impact inaccessibility can have on our own lives, we would be > sensitive to the needs of others, even when the issues didn't affect us > directly. But that has proven a stupid pipe dream on my part, and I've found > the whole thing really upsetting. For the most part, it seems like it's > everyone for themselves these days, and if others are being thrown under the > bus, well too damn bad. > As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid > wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost all > the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for someone > who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were to improve, > Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way and it's difficult > to get through an entire business day of use without the need to charge > something. > And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't then > charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, selfish, > stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This company, which > parades their accessibility efforts like some sort of badge of honour, > appears to be about to crap all over one segment of its accessibility market. > Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And > they're going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps, in > time, a USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive carefully > managed industry-wide adoption. But Apple isn't using USB-C on its iDevices. > It's using a proprietary port that it doesn't even offer on its own personal > computers, meaning you won't be able to use the Lightning-based Ear Pods even > with a Mac. That's two sets of headphones you're going to have to carry > around with you, unless you don't mind having an adapter jutting out of the > port you want to charge your phone with. Absolutely absurd. > I believe it was Samsung that recently put out a series of ads mocking Apple > over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know Apple has given them a > great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were more viable for daily use. > Because once my 6s Plus eventually expires, I'm really going to be stuck. > Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense by then because there is certainly > going to be a backlash. > Jonathan Mosen > Mosen Consulting > Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training > http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> > > > On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> > wrote: > > Hello Mary, > > My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an active > role in what the future brings. We, as consumers, have alternatives and it's > when we begin to explore these alternatives that companies pay attention. > > Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically ridiculous > decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, I'm not so > certain that just because it decides something it better will make it so. > > I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it would > change the lives of the world. Well, as far as I can tell, my world hasn't > changed one bit either with or without it. > > As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to follow > Apple's lead in the coming future. As one of the executives of Samsung > recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when it follows." > > My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see. Fortunately for me, > I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest device just > because it is the latest. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Mary Otten > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM > To:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the > iPhone seven > > Hi Mark, > Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the > disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage card > thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the other > rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the new phone, > as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use other headphones. > Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect that the headphone > jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other device makers are > already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. In fact, they will > not be the first ones to market without a headphone jack on the phone. > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu > <mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: > > Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the new > iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack. > > When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the > removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to its > flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, effectively, > rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept those features. > > A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS > devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon > attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed to > turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in order to > manage photos. > > Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature in > the subsequent release of iTunes. > > So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something tells > me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile). > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik > Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM > To: MacVisionaries E-Mail List > Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the > iPhone seven > > When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first > appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so > potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the > iPhone 7. 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