Yes but the great thing about the bose devices is that unless things have changed in the past couple of months,
With sighted assistance you can update firmware on those headphones, A friend of mine got the quiet comfort and he loves them But yeah look at possible firmware updates Cheers, Simon From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Anders Holmberg Sent: Wednesday, 7 September 2016 9:20 AM To: 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven Hi! Yes i am intrested too. I just bought the greatest and latest from Bose called Quietcomfort 35 with noise cancelation. They are one of the best headphones i’ve used but sadly there is a small lag with the Iphone SE. Now i can not nor would i buy the Iphone 7 right now. /A On 5 Sep 2016, at 04:49, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: I would be interested in the review. Of course, being slow to adopt a new headset when my old one actually still work, I just recently purchased the legend, which I do like. But it does have the lag. On the other hand, it lasted forever on the road trip, and with a little box that you put it in, it recharges and you just keep going and going like the energizer bunny. Anyway, no lag is a good thing. So I for one am interested in the review. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:56 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net<mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: Yes, it’s the Legend replacement and I added one to the collection today. Was going to post a review if there was any interest. On Sep 4, 2016, at 9:12 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: Did this 5220 replace your legend? Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2016, at 6:08 PM, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net<mailto:sc...@qualityip.net>> wrote: I can confirm with the iPhone 6s+ running IOS beta 10 the lag is almost non existent when paired with the new Plantronics 5220. I’m not sure if it’s the phone or the headset taking the difference but the combination is pretty snappy. On Sep 3, 2016, at 3:11 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org<mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote: Hi Mary, it's an attempt to solve the problem in that the Griffin device has a 3.5mm jack. But you then pair the device to your iPhone using Bluetooth 4.1. So depending on the Bluetooth stack in the iPhone 7, we could hit the latency issues that we all know about with VO and BT devices. If the Bluetooth stack is significantly improved, it could be a work-around of sorts, although of course you've then got yourself in the position where you have to remember to keep your 3.5 jack charged, which hardly represents progress. For people who keep VO talking for long periods, time between charges may not be that long. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org<http://mosen.org/> On 4/09/2016, at 6:15 AM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com<mailto:motte...@gmail.com>> wrote: That wouldn't seem to address this problem at all. It requires a headphone jack. Maybe it's a nice device, but not for this issue. Mary Sent from my iPhone On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Ray Foret jr <rforet7...@comcast.net<mailto:rforet7...@comcast.net>> wrote: Ah yes, you are talking about the Griffin addapter which will turn any 3.5MM headphone in to a blue tooth set. They will sell it for 19.99 I believe. https://griffintechnology.com/us/itrip-clip-bluetooth-headphone-adapter This may not solve all of what some believe may be a problem, but, at least someone is trying. Sent from my Mac, The only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a very happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone6+ and Apple TV user!!!!! On Sep 3, 2016, at 10:48 AM, Terje Strømberg <terjestrmb...@gmail.com<mailto:terjestrmb...@gmail.com>> wrote: A few weeks back, i red about a chineeze company or maybe japaneese who had a dummy adapter for later manufacture. This was an adapter with both lightning port and 3.5mm jack. Take care 1. sep. 2016 kl. 10.28 skrev Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org<mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>>: I'm in full agreement with you mark. The headphone jack removal has a huge negative accessibility impact for me personally, and I have to hope the inconvenience factor will cause Apple to regret the day they did this and reverse it. I frequent a forum for IT professionals here in New Zealand. I'm the only blind person there, and people are justifiably livid about the removal of the headphone jack. Most people don't want this, and I suspect based on what has leaked that the benefits to most people of upgrading will be so incremental that the lack of a headphone jack will cause a lot of people to sit it out. That gives me some hope in a situation that has really affected me, because one thing that this process has taught me since I started blogging about the possibility of the headphone jack to raise the alarm at a time when it may have made a difference, is that I was naive to think that blind people might be any more sensitive to and respectful of the accessibility needs of others, such as the hearing impaired. I guess I would like to think that since we know what impact inaccessibility can have on our own lives, we would be sensitive to the needs of others, even when the issues didn't affect us directly. But that has proven a stupid pipe dream on my part, and I've found the whole thing really upsetting. For the most part, it seems like it's everyone for themselves these days, and if others are being thrown under the bus, well too damn bad. As a hearing aid wearer, I can't use Apple's ear pods. As a hearing aid wearer, i need to have my phone connected to the headphone jack almost all the time I use it. Bluetooth latency is abysmal and not viable for someone who moves through their phone at a good clip. Even if this were to improve, Bluetooth drains hearing aid batteries in a profound way and it's difficult to get through an entire business day of use without the need to charge something. And if I use the provided lightning adapter, then it appears I can't then charge my phone while I use my phone. This is the most senseless, selfish, stupid, user-unfriendly thing Apple has ever done. This company, which parades their accessibility efforts like some sort of badge of honour, appears to be about to crap all over one segment of its accessibility market. Something isn't automatically the future because Apple says it is. And they're going too far this time, alienating too many people. Perhaps, in time, a USB-C-based solution is going to be viable, and receive carefully managed industry-wide adoption. But Apple isn't using USB-C on its iDevices. It's using a proprietary port that it doesn't even offer on its own personal computers, meaning you won't be able to use the Lightning-based Ear Pods even with a Mac. That's two sets of headphones you're going to have to carry around with you, unless you don't mind having an adapter jutting out of the port you want to charge your phone with. Absolutely absurd. I believe it was Samsung that recently put out a series of ads mocking Apple over the potential lack of a headphone jack. They know Apple has given them a great gift. I just wish Android accessibility were more viable for daily use. Because once my 6s Plus eventually expires, I'm really going to be stuck. Hopefully, Apple will have seen sense by then because there is certainly going to be a backlash. Jonathan Mosen Mosen Consulting Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training http://Mosen.org<http://mosen.org/> On 1/09/2016, at 6:15 PM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: Hello Mary, My point is simply that, unlike the era of Jobbs, the market, plays an active role in what the future brings. We, as consumers, have alternatives and it's when we begin to explore these alternatives that companies pay attention. Given Apple's issue with iTunes for Windows and its politically ridiculous decision to unilaterally put albums in its users' accounts, I'm not so certain that just because it decides something it better will make it so. I remember the fan fair Apple made about its watch--they thought it would change the lives of the world. Well, as far as I can tell, my world hasn't changed one bit either with or without it. As far as Samsung is concerned, I don't think they'll be so quick to follow Apple's lead in the coming future. As one of the executives of Samsung recently said, "Samsung is at its best when it leads, not when it follows." My personal position is to just sit back, wait, and see. Fortunately for me, I no longer have the desire to run out and purchase the latest device just because it is the latest. Mark -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Mary Otten Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 12:33 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven Hi Mark, Of course, only time will tell. But I think you are wrong about the disappearing headphone jack. For one thing, Samsung put back the storage card thing, but did not put back the user replaceable battery. Also, if the other rumor is true, Apple will be including compatible earbuds with the new phone, as well as an adapter to make it possible for people to use other headphones. Given the prevalence of Bluetooth these days, I suspect that the headphone jack will in fact be gone from iPhones forever. Other device makers are already moving in this direction. So it isn't just Apple. In fact, they will not be the first ones to market without a headphone jack on the phone. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 31, 2016, at 11:05 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu<mailto:mk...@ucla.edu>> wrote: Well, as for me, I'm going to sit back and see how the market accepts the new iPhone 7 trans a separate earphone jack. When Samsung attempted to make its devices thinner by (1) removing the removable battery and (2) removing the ability to add auxiliary memory to its flagship phones, it soon reversed its decision as the market, effectively, rejected the devices in favor of other companies who kept those features. A couple of years ago, when Apple decided to remove the ability for iOS devices to have their photo content immediately available to PC users upon attaching the device to the computer, the marketplace went crazy and vowed to turn to Android if Apple insisted on forcing people to use iTunes in order to manage photos. Like Samsung, Apple immediately reversed itself by restoring this feature in the subsequent release of iTunes. So, I'll just wait and see for, unless 7 is a complete hit, something tells me that iPhone 8 will bring the jack back (smile). Mark -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com<mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Bill Gallik Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2016 9:43 AM To: MacVisionaries E-Mail List Subject: Re: Some interesting rumours regarding 3.5 mm jack issue on the iPhone seven When all the “hubbub” concerning Apple removing the earphone jack first appeared I was certain they (Apple) was going to provide an adapter so potential customers would be able to use their existing earphones with the iPhone 7. This coming to light does not surprise me in the least. **************** - Bill & Leader Dog Holland - "The problem with people who have no vices is that you can be pretty sure they are going to have some pretty annoying virtues." - Elizabeth Taylor, 20th Century Screen Actress, (1932-2011)-- -- The following information is important for all members of the Mac Visionaries list. 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