Hi! Braille In my Opinion is just a shame on the mac. And i really don’t know how we can get it better. I’ve been having a mac now since November 2011 and nothing has happend since the day i got my mac. The only great thing for a braille user on the mac is that you can if you have an Index embosser do some embossing with the mac. /A > On 27 Jun 2016, at 21:27, Scott Granados <sc...@qualityip.net> wrote: > > Just to add to your comments, Braille is by far the weak point in my mind. > Braille on OSX is bad or at least with my Focus 40. That’s a definite > weakness you point out that I can attest to from personal experience. > > > On 6/27/16, 2:50 PM, "Larry Thacker Jr." <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com on > behalf of larry.thacker...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It was Windows 10 that did it for me. I got tired of the inconsistency and > the issues with accessibility. I’ve been reading and listening to podcasts > about the Mac for years, so in March I bought my first Mac. It’s a Mini, > with processor and RAM upgraded sufficiently that I feel comfortable running > Windows from within if I find it necessary. I may in fact find it necessary > for one primary reason. There really isn’t a good Braille production program > for Mac, and I need one. Over all, I have been much happier with the Mac. > It took a bit of adjustment and I still get tripped up occasionally by the > differences. I don’t know if I’ll ever be totally comfortable with the way > editing works, especially since I have to use Windows at work so I can never > truly escape. If I had to answer the question in a word, it would be > stability. My Mac doesn’t crash, doesn’t suddenly slow to a crawl for no > reason, is totally booted and with everything I was working on last I used it > before the windows machine has even presented a login screen, and integrates > marvelously with my iPhone. Every time I boot the Windows machine, which is > slowly becoming more and more unusable, I wish I could toss it out the > window.! I am hoping that with Mac usage on the rise, we won’t be left out > in the cold with braille publication forever. That will be the day I find an > interesting and satisfying way to dispose of the big black box on the floor > of my office. > > Not that the Mac is perfect. I’m replying to this reply because I tried to > delete some of the messages in this thread and leave others. I went up too > far and got the conversation group. Everything went away and undo didn’t. I > can’t even find the messages in the trash. > >> On Jun 27, 2016, at 10:51 AM, Mike Arrigo <n0...@charter.net> wrote: >> >> Here are my reasons whyI think the mac is better and why I left the Windows >> world, at least for home use. First, an excellent screen reader is built in >> to the operating system. I think you said you were using a mac mini, you can >> use the track pad if you have one, I use the numpad commander on my mac >> mini, it makes navigating easier. You can change a voiceover setting so you >> don't have to interact with most things if it's too confusing for you. You >> can reinstall your operating system, even with a new hard drive without >> requiring sighted help. I think the mac provides the best experience when >> browsing the internet. This is not an accessibility feature, but the mac >> operating system is much cleaner than windows. The applications are self >> contained, you don't have a central registry controlling everything, or >> shared files that need to be installed all over the place. Finally, Apple >> has maintained the same interface over several versions of the operating >> system, they don't feel a need to change it with each version the way >> Microsoft changes Windows. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. >> Original message: >>> Please forgive the long message to follow. Just delete it if you don't want >>> to read it. >>> I have been messing around with my new Mac Mini over the weekend. I have >>> the two books, Everything You Need To Know To Use The Mac With El Capitan >>> And Voice Over, by Janet Ingber, and Mastering The Macintosh With Voice >>> Over, by Tim Sniffen.I thoroughly expected not to know what I am doing for >>> a while, at the moment, that is an understatement. I have it set up, thanks >>> to Mr. Sniffen's book, Ms. Ingber seems to assume one will have sighted >>> help to do that. I have been with windows since 2000, and Jaws 3.5. I still >>> have Jaws, having bought, last December, the SMA through version 19. I have >>> to figure out, by July 5, whether I want to take the Mac back to the Apple >>> store to get my money back. So far, it seems like a bunch of incredible >>> tedium to get things done, as compared to Windows. The track pad helps, it >>> makes it a little more like my iPhone 6, that I love. Getting things done >>> on the iPhone never seemed to have nearly the tedium as does the Mac,even >>> when my iPhone 5 was new to me. For example, having to interact with >>> things, rather than just hitting enter when I want to do something, or >>> press two or three keys at the same time to get VoiceOver to do something, >>> I have no doubt that I can learn it, but My nagging question during my 14 >>> days is going to be: why? What is so much better about this than Windows? >>> Is the Mac really better, or just different? Is, for example, iTunes really >>> easier to use? What little I have investigated, I am not yet convinced that >>> it is. Already having Jaws, I don't have the issue of having to buy a >>> windows screen reader, and NVDA is making it unnecessary even for a new >>> Windows user to do so. I paid over 50 percent more for this Mac Mini than I >>> could have bought a Windows 10 computer. I wish I had 30 days, rather than >>> 14, to figure this out. The time is ticking. 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