HEy Nicolai, I had the number-spouting thing as well, only for me it would not stop if I restarted vo. Quite honestly after all the trouble I had with william I ditched him/downloaded the infovox demos and was happy... Although I did like William (oh to put this right, i did today get a reply from cereproc support regarding my bug I submitted). Greetings, Anouk On Nov 17, 2009, at 6:50 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> Hi, > > I don't get the crashes at all. It's kind of snappy, but it has a slight > delay and an interesting inflection. I'm using him right now. The quality > could definitely be fixed, but I like how he pronounces most things.. > > If the quality could be fixed and stability greatly improved, I'd use him a > lot more often. Also, do keep in mind that I was reviewing it by the way it > works on my system. It's in no way conclusive. I did find it would > occasionally stop my control key from working when switching to another > voice, and when switching back, William would spout off a lot of numbers > regarding amplitude and so-forth while I could hear William while navigating > as well. So I would have two Williams. One reading off an array of numeric > values, and the other reading my window. > I have to quit VoiceOver to stop this and make my control key work as > expected again. Also, interestingly enough, option-left arrow works > differently now. Now, it reads the beginning of the line if you press the > keystroke twice. That happens only when using William, as well. > > Regards, > Nic > > > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Nov 17, 2009, at 5:31 PM, anouk radix wrote: > >> Hello, I did experience a lot of crashes with william especially when using >> safari (that is voicover restarting) it was very annoying. >> Greetings, Anouk >> On Nov 17, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> No, I do not need his e-mail. >>> >>> It seems I lost what I wrote to reply after trying William, so I'll try >>> again. >>> >>> Generally, William didn't actually crash anything. William was pretty >>> snappy, just like the Infovox voices. However, when surfing with Safari and >>> using other applications, I occasionally lost all speech though I could >>> still hear the VoiceOver sounds. That seemed to be the biggest issue. Also, >>> what is weird, is that at first, it kept switching back to Alex when >>> switching to William in the Voice box in the VoiceOver Utility. It took a >>> bit of patience and some effort to make it switch and actually keep using >>> the voice. Also, worth noting is that apparently you cannot change to the >>> William voice by choosing the speech attribute with VO-Right/Left and using >>> VO-Up/Down to cycle between available voices. At least, I had no luck with >>> that. >>> >>> The quality is not very good, and William can be difficult to understand. >>> Even with the VoiceOver volume on one hundred percent, you still have to >>> turn the Macintosh volume up quite a bit. It definitely doesn't sound very >>> clear. I expected better quality. >>> >>> In short, I definitely do not think it's anywhere worth its current price. >>> A lot of things could be improved, but that's to be expected, of course. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 2:52 PM, hank smith wrote: >>> >>>> I sent the info in a email >>>> did you need to know the guys email who gave me mine? >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: Nicolai Svendsen >>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:48 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Cereproc Voices Again >>>> >>>> Hi again, >>>> >>>> After obtaining my coupon for William, I'm going to try him in a bit. As >>>> for refunds, Cereproc generally does not provide any refunds unless a very >>>> good reason is provided. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Nic >>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>> AIM: cincinster >>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>> Facebook Profile >>>> My Twitter >>>> >>>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> That's exactly why I would like to try them before I buy. I don't care >>>>> about the Demo Bar. That's not going to show me how usable they are, nor >>>>> get them any feedback. But I'll let you know if they have one. I hope >>>>> they do. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Nic >>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>> My Twitter >>>>> >>>>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:43 AM, anouk radix wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hello PLEASE if you find out about a refund policy let me know because I >>>>>> sure want my money back. I did submit a bug report but did not get any >>>>>> kind of reply while their voices are just plain unusable on the mac. >>>>>> Greetings, Anouk >>>>>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi guys, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sorry to bring this up continuously. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I recall someone mentioning a coupon to obtain a trial for a Cereproc >>>>>>> voice. I assume this is for the Mac? If so how did you get it? Cereproc >>>>>>> themselves don't seem to be very helpful, and since the Demo bar is >>>>>>> flash, apparently, I can't use it. Nor am I allowed to test it before >>>>>>> buying, supposedly. I don't recall if they have a refund policy, but I >>>>>>> hope they do. Either way, at least support doesn't sound very >>>>>>> promising. But yes. I'm pretty sure I heard of someone having a coupon >>>>>>> code for the Cereproc Sarah, at least. I did want to try William, but >>>>>>> at least Cereproc seem to deny that there has ever been existing trials >>>>>>> of any of their products. I'm doubting this a bit due to the mention of >>>>>>> a code on the list. I'd persist and claim it does exist, but I don't >>>>>>> want to be hated by Cereproc. :) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can anyone confirm if it only exists for Sarah or all their voices? it >>>>>>> would seem a bit weird if it only exists for a single voice. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Nic >>>>>>> Skype: Kvalme >>>>>>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>>>>>> AIM: cincinster >>>>>>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>>>>>> Facebook Profile >>>>>>> My Twitter >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionar...@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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