Hi,

I don't get the crashes at all. It's kind of snappy, but it has a slight delay 
and an interesting inflection. I'm using him right now. The quality could 
definitely be fixed, but I like how he pronounces most things..

If the quality could be fixed and stability greatly improved, I'd use him a lot 
more often. Also, do keep in mind that I was reviewing it by the way it works 
on my system. It's in no way conclusive. I did find it would occasionally stop 
my control key from working when switching to another voice, and when switching 
back, William would spout off a lot of numbers regarding amplitude and so-forth 
while I could hear William while navigating as well. So I would have two 
Williams. One reading off an array of numeric values, and the other reading my 
window.
I have to quit VoiceOver to stop this and make my control key work as expected 
again. Also, interestingly enough, option-left arrow works differently now. 
Now, it reads the beginning of the line if you press the keystroke twice. That 
happens only when using William, as well.

Regards,
Nic


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On Nov 17, 2009, at 5:31 PM, anouk radix wrote:

> Hello, I did experience a lot of crashes with william especially when using 
> safari (that is voicover restarting) it was very annoying.
> Greetings, Anouk
> On Nov 17, 2009, at 4:57 PM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> No, I do not need his e-mail.
>> 
>> It seems I lost what I wrote to reply after trying William, so I'll try 
>> again.
>> 
>> Generally, William didn't actually crash anything. William was pretty 
>> snappy, just like the Infovox voices. However, when surfing with Safari and 
>> using other applications, I occasionally lost all speech though I could 
>> still hear the VoiceOver sounds. That seemed to be the biggest issue. Also, 
>> what is weird, is that at first, it kept switching back to Alex when 
>> switching to William in the Voice box in the VoiceOver Utility. It took a 
>> bit of patience and some effort to make it switch and actually keep using 
>> the voice. Also, worth noting is that apparently you cannot change to the 
>> William voice by choosing the speech attribute with VO-Right/Left and using 
>> VO-Up/Down to cycle between available voices. At least, I had no luck with 
>> that.
>> 
>> The quality is not very good, and William can be difficult to understand. 
>> Even with the VoiceOver volume on one hundred percent, you still have to 
>> turn the Macintosh volume up quite a bit. It definitely doesn't sound very 
>> clear. I expected better quality.
>> 
>> In short, I definitely do not think it's anywhere worth its current price. A 
>> lot of things could be improved, but that's to be expected, of course.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Nic
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>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 2:52 PM, hank smith wrote:
>> 
>>> I sent the info in a email
>>> did you need to know the guys email who gave me mine?
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Nicolai Svendsen
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 17, 2009 6:48 AM
>>> Subject: Re: Cereproc Voices Again
>>> 
>>> Hi again,
>>> 
>>> After obtaining my coupon for William, I'm going to try him in a bit. As 
>>> for refunds, Cereproc generally does not provide any refunds unless a very 
>>> good reason is provided.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Nic
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>>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> That's exactly why I would like to try them before I buy. I don't care 
>>>> about the Demo Bar. That's not going to show me how usable they are, nor 
>>>> get them any feedback. But I'll let you know if they have one. I hope they 
>>>> do.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Nic
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>>>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:43 AM, anouk radix wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hello PLEASE if you find out about a refund policy let me know because I 
>>>>> sure want my money back. I did submit a bug report but did not get any 
>>>>> kind of reply while their voices are just plain unusable on the mac.
>>>>> Greetings, Anouk
>>>>> On Nov 17, 2009, at 10:19 AM, Nicolai Svendsen wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sorry to bring this up continuously.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I recall someone mentioning a coupon to obtain a trial for a Cereproc 
>>>>>> voice. I assume this is for the Mac? If so how did you get it? Cereproc 
>>>>>> themselves don't seem to be very helpful, and since the Demo bar is 
>>>>>> flash, apparently, I can't use it. Nor am I allowed to test it before 
>>>>>> buying, supposedly. I don't recall if they have a refund policy, but I 
>>>>>> hope they do. Either way, at least support doesn't sound very promising. 
>>>>>> But yes. I'm pretty sure I heard of someone having a coupon code for the 
>>>>>> Cereproc Sarah, at least. I did want to try William, but at least 
>>>>>> Cereproc seem to deny that there has ever been existing trials of any of 
>>>>>> their products. I'm doubting this a bit due to the mention of a code on 
>>>>>> the list. I'd persist and claim it does exist, but I don't want to be 
>>>>>> hated by Cereproc. :)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Can anyone confirm if it only exists for Sarah or all their voices? it 
>>>>>> would seem a bit weird if it only exists for a single voice.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Nic
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