And I'll probably give it a try as well, as I totally forgot that I have a backup currently of my current system, so if worst comes to worst, Super Dooper is my friend.

Chris.

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I am saying that they may not happen but I’m also saying they may, it’s not a certain thing. For example, many people have reported audio routing bugs with OS9 on the iPhone, I have not experienced this. I think you’re making the right move it’s just important to state. You and only you can weigh whether these are problems for you or not and if they are then hold off which it sounds like you may. Me personally I’m giving it a shot but then again I have multiple machines so if I have an issue rolling back is easy or maybe not even required since I can just leave some of my hardware on yosemite.



On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

Well, unless you are saying that the bugs may not appear on my machine when I upgrade, I think some of them are big enough deal for me where I will wait for an update that will hopefully fix them. I am particularly thinking of the mail one and those associated with Safari. The new features do sound good. But apparently some of them don't work right yet. Better to wait.
Mary

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On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:

You can’t really go by these bug lists. They may be an issue for one person, not on another. Depends on a lot of factors.


On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thank you so much, Alex for posting this list of bugs in the new operating system. Having just read a mainstream review the talked about how this was a "rock solid" release, it is disheartening to see so many bugs in your list. I do know that Apple cares about accessibility. But it is damned hard to keep that in mind when they release a rock solid version with so many Voice over bugs. I have to believe that equivalent functionality for the mainstream would not be impacted in a release version. But because we are a small group, we can wait. And we can love it, as I'm sure the critics will now come out and tell me.

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On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:

Hi all,
Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug list for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there are some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:

Bug List:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor

New Features Blog:
http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users

New Features Podcast:
http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan

I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a little arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a single place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the only accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.

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