I am saying that they may not happen but I’m also saying they may, it’s not a 
certain thing.  For example, many people have reported audio routing bugs with 
OS9 on the iPhone, I have not experienced this.  I think you’re making the 
right move it’s just important to state.  You and only you can weigh whether 
these are problems for you or not and if they are then hold off which it sounds 
like you may.  Me personally I’m giving it a shot but then again I have 
multiple machines so if I have an issue rolling back is easy or maybe not even 
required since I can just leave some of my hardware on yosemite.



> On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:15 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, unless you are saying that the bugs may not appear on my machine when I 
> upgrade, I think some of them are big enough deal for me where I will wait 
> for an update that will hopefully fix them. I am particularly thinking of the 
> mail one and those associated with Safari. The new features do sound good. 
> But apparently some of them don't work right yet. Better to wait.
> Mary
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> You can’t really go by these bug lists.  They may be an issue for one 
>> person, not on another.  Depends on a lot of factors.  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thank you so much, Alex for posting this list of bugs in the new operating 
>>> system. Having just read a mainstream review the talked about how this was 
>>> a "rock solid" release, it is disheartening to see so many bugs in your 
>>> list. I do know that Apple cares about accessibility. But it is damned hard 
>>> to keep that in mind when they release a rock solid version with so many 
>>> Voice over bugs. I have to believe that equivalent functionality for the 
>>> mainstream would not be impacted in a release version. But because we are a 
>>> small group, we can wait. And we can love it, as I'm sure the critics will 
>>> now come out and tell me.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug 
>>>> list for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there 
>>>> are some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a 
>>>> podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
>>>> 
>>>> Bug List:
>>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
>>>> 
>>>> New Features Blog:
>>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
>>>> 
>>>> New Features Podcast:
>>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
>>>> 
>>>> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a little 
>>>> arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a single 
>>>> place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the only 
>>>> accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
>>>> 
>>>> --
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>>>> Alex Hall
>>>> mehg...@icloud.com
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