Well, unless you are saying that the bugs may not appear on my machine when I 
upgrade, I think some of them are big enough deal for me where I will wait for 
an update that will hopefully fix them. I am particularly thinking of the mail 
one and those associated with Safari. The new features do sound good. But 
apparently some of them don't work right yet. Better to wait.
Mary

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> On Sep 30, 2015, at 11:12 AM, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> You can’t really go by these bug lists.  They may be an issue for one person, 
> not on another.  Depends on a lot of factors.  
> 
> 
>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 2:06 PM, Mary Otten <motte...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank you so much, Alex for posting this list of bugs in the new operating 
>> system. Having just read a mainstream review the talked about how this was a 
>> "rock solid" release, it is disheartening to see so many bugs in your list. 
>> I do know that Apple cares about accessibility. But it is damned hard to 
>> keep that in mind when they release a rock solid version with so many Voice 
>> over bugs. I have to believe that equivalent functionality for the 
>> mainstream would not be impacted in a release version. But because we are a 
>> small group, we can wait. And we can love it, as I'm sure the critics will 
>> now come out and tell me.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Sep 30, 2015, at 10:56 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> Just a note to say that El Capitan has been released. I compiled a bug list 
>>> for AppleVis which I strongly recommend everyone looks at, as there are 
>>> some pretty major problems on there. I also wrote a blog, and did a 
>>> podcast, covering the new features in VoiceOver. Links:
>>> 
>>> Bug List:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/mac-os-x-news/accessibility-bugs-os-x-1011-el-capitan-serious-minor
>>> 
>>> New Features Blog:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/blog/assistive-technology-mac-os-x-news/whats-new-os-x-1011-el-capitan-voiceover-users
>>> 
>>> New Features Podcast:
>>> http://www.applevis.com/podcast/episodes/exploring-some-new-accessibility-features-os-x-1011-el-capitan
>>> 
>>> I realized, in reading this email back, that it might come off as a little 
>>> arrogant. I don't mean it that way, I just wanted to give people a single 
>>> place to get some coverage about the new OS, and those are the only 
>>> accessibility-centric sources I know of for now.
>>> 
>>> --
>>> Have a great day,
>>> Alex Hall
>>> mehg...@icloud.com
>>> 
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