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----- Original Message ----- From: CJ Daniel To: [email protected] Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2015 3:57 PM Subject: Re: OS X beta. Well said, CJ On Aug 7, 2015, at 7:09 PM, gs <[email protected]> wrote: Chris, Most of us have already reached our conclusions with regard to you. you are pathetically out of place on the list. We do not have a moderator but if we did you would have been reduced quite a while back. If this list doesn't achieve some sort of of consistency soon, it will fall apart or cease to be a viable resource for Mac users. And Chris, you will be the main reason why. Stop to think about how you are destroying a valuable resource and put some sort of throttle on yourself. The shoeless wonder is not the problem and neither is Tyler or anyone else who occasionally expresses a little opinion. Get some psychological help and stop tormenting us. I'm reaching my limit and I'm hard to put off. Get the message and either go away or tone it down. If there is actually a moderator behind the curtain somewhere, feel free to remove me if you don't like what I say. On Aug 7, 2015, at 6:33 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> wrote: Actually, Ray, I don't know what to think of tylor. One minute, he gripes at all of us, but then in another one of his posts, he says whether we like it or agree or not, NDA's NDA. If Apple says you can't discuss it, then you can't. I just wish he'd make up his mind which way he flies, once and for all. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray Foret Jr To: Mac Visionaries List Sent: Friday, August 07, 2015 6:30 AM Subject: Re: OS X beta. Well, Chris, don't let Tylor's remark to me bother yuh. It's just Tylor being Tylor and trying to cope with the fact that he can't or won't accept Apple's nice strict NDA. People like that are why there's a delete key. Mine's gotten a fair amount of use recently. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Aug 7, 2015, at 5:25 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <[email protected]> wrote: Tylor, was that really necessary? Chris. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Littlefield, Tyler" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 06, 2015 7:06 PM Subject: Re: OS X beta. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Did you have to check a "constantly barefooted" box on the NDA agreement as well? On 8/6/2015 6:04 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: Got news for y'all. public beta or not, it cannot be discussed. That's Apple's policy. Just deal with it. IF you really want to know, sign up for their public beta program and find out. Y'all are really something else. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:09 PM, Sunshine <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I agree with the person that stated a public beta is a public beta, so that a person should be able to discuss the public beta of osx and the like why make it a public beta if they want nda as well, public beta means that public beta you should be able to discuss it with out havint to worry about things so public beta means no nda. On 8/6/2015 1:56 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote: Diddo. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Joe Quinn <mailto:[email protected]> *To:* <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 12:24 PM *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. as I've said, and I remember responding to this exact question, so, rather than reply again, I'll just put my original reply below. It still stands. The only thing I'll say different is that if ya don't like, or have questions about,e Apple or their policies in reguards to beta software, contact them about it. :( it may not make sense, but that's the way it is. NDA, and all that. in spite of it being public, ya still can't talk about it publically. now if something's released about IOS 9 from apple, then it can be discussed. I think that's the same for things that're released elsewhere. for instance cool blind tech did an overview of what is going to be in iOS 9. maybe they shouldn't've done that, NDA again, but they did. On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:15 AM, Les Kriegler <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: Well, then that really doesn't make sense to me. How can you make something available to everybody and then swear everybody to secrecy. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 10:22 AM, Joe Quinn <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: The only thing that has changed in the betas is that you no longer "need" to have a developer account. Thus making it a "public" beta. NDA still applies. Sent from my iPhone On Aug 6, 2015, at 8:55 AM, Les Kriegler <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: Okay, a question here. If this is a public beta, then why can’t questions be asked? If it’s as it was before and it wasn’t public, then I could understand. But if Apple is now going public with their betas, then I would think this is open for discussion. Now, if Im confusing the public beta with OS 9, then I apologize for the question. Thanks. Les On Aug 6, 2015, at 9:49 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: I have to say in this particular case, I agree with Sadam. It's not like he's asking for specifics. He just wanted a general yes, or no. I guess the only agreement with Ray I would have is, admittedly, this is kind of a grey area, as what one may think is unstable, someone else may not really be as concerned about. Over all though, yes, Sadam, I think it's safe to install, for what it's worth. Yeah, there are some issues, but I don't think they're to the point of being debilitating. Chris. ----- Original Message ----- *From:* Sadam Ahmed <mailto:[email protected]> *To:* <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] *Sent:* Thursday, August 06, 2015 9:21 AM *Subject:* Re: OS X beta. So, where in my message am I going into specifics? Yes it’s stable at this time. Or no hold off there are a couple of issues. That would suffice. With Best regards, Sadam Ahmed Diploma of International Business candidate RMIT University Blog: Http://www.SadamAhmed.com <http://www.sadamahmed.com/> Sent using OS X Mail On 6 Aug 2015, at 9:30 pm, Ray Foret Jr <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: With respect, I disagree. You did ask for something to specific to discuss with you either privately or otherwise. To ask how stable a beta OS is something that touches on a degree of specifity which is not something I for one am willing to go in to. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Aug 6, 2015, at 4:39 AM, <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] wrote: Ray, I'm not asking for specifics. Only gauging the suitability of putting this on my Mac. The question was quite broad. Don't think it breaks NDA. Sent from my iPhone -- On 6 Aug 2015, at 7:23 pm, Ray Foret Jr <<mailto:[email protected]>[email protected]> wrote: Let me gentally remind you that we cannot discuss beta findings here. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user! Sent from my Mac, the only computer with full accessibility for the blind built-in On Aug 6, 2015, at 2:40 AM, <mailto:[email protected]>[email protected] wrote: Hi all, I would like to install the current beta and am wondering how stable the current release is? If you would like to make contact off the list regarding this feel free to reach out. Thanks in advance, Sadam Ahmed Sent from my iPhone -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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