Uma,
Thank you so much for this. This info you've provided is excellent! Where
do I set that with the right command key for fast searching? I know I've
seen it, I just can't for the life of me recall where.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Yuma Decaux" <jamy...@gmail.com>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:35 AM
Subject: Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted
Christopher,
For fast searching, set the right command key as control key and use
whatever first letter you want to search for on a site.
For example, in google, if the first page of your search is not
satisfactory, type right command 2 and you will go straight to page 2 link.
Another example is when you’re on forum pages over a question or discussion,
you can use the same method when thread numbers are there.
It usually works better when you are familiar with the site, similarly to
group mode as opposed to dom mode.
However, when using group mode, I find it effective to rotor to headings as
W3c standards are set to paginate the same way across websites, and this
standardisation is getting more uniform. So a combination of heading
navigation, meaning rotor to headings then flick down your trackpad. there
are more likely chances that you hit directly what you are looking for such
as on news sites, when hitting a download page link or anything else for
that matter. This way you immediately jump straight to the meat of things.
Cheers,
On 18/06/2015, at 1:24 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland
<clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote:
If you've not changed it, then it should be set to dom by default.
If you want to check though, go into your Voiceover Utility with VO+F8.
Then in the categories table, go to web. In there you'll see the option
for either group or dom. Again, by default, it should be on Dom.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Junior Lolley KG4ITD"
<eagle...@fairpoint.net>
To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:16 AM
Subject: RE: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted
I am still learning the Mac how do you make sure dom is selected please?
Junior Lolley kg4itd
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-----Original Message-----
From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Christopher-Mark
Gilland
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:08 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted
Ray,
I personally find group mode to be very very clunky. Yes, you have to do
more Vo-ing around the screen with DOM, I'll give you that, but the thing
is, with group navigation, though it might be more reliable at times, I'll
even go so far as to grant you that, even though truthfully, I'd rather
not, it slows me down tremendously, as then I have to sit here and listen
to Voiceover read sometimes a whole group cluster to determine if what I
need is barried within that group. So, let's say that the item I need is
about the fifth or sixth item down in a group. I have to sit here and
listen to the first 4 or 5 things just to know that the 6th item down is
what I need. OK, once I become more familiar with the web site, then group
mode might make sense, but definitely! definitely! definitely! not if I've
never seen the web site before a day in my life.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: erik burggraaf
<mailto:e...@erik-burggraaf.com>
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2015 11:00 AM
Subject: Re: web site navigation by group verses DOM: Opinions wanted
No question. group is a much more intuitive way to navigate than dom,
taking full advantage of the mac system of navigation as it does.
I would use it all the time except that no matter how many upgrades come
down the pipe, group mode is consistently very slow. It pauses my
browsing with busy busy busy messages and takes longer to load large
webpages.
If it were resource efficient on my machine I would use it but for now
it's dom mode.
Best,
Erik Burggraaf
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On Jun 17, 2015, at 7:28 AM, Ray Foret Jr <rforet7...@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi there.
Subject line pretty much says it all. Due to a problem that Chris was
having about a week ago reporting issues with beta software he is testing,
Somebody here suggested group navigation rather then DOM navigation. I
manage a google group myself, and, I was wondering why I couldn't edit or
clear the group welcome message. When I swwitched to group mode, however,
I found that I could in fact do so. While in DOM, though, this is not
possible. However, having stayed in group navigation for a while now, I
find that much more interaction is needed and it's a little harder to tell
what is where. Takes a little more time, it seems to me, to navigate in
group mode rather than DOM. So, for those of y'all who choose to navigate
in group mode, any tips I my try to help make it faster, or, would DOM be
just better in most cases?
Thanks.
Sincerely,
The Constantly Barefooted Ray
Still a happy Mac, Verizon Wireless iPhone 6+ and Apple TV user!
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