Thank God!
Chris.
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From: Sean Murphy
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, April 15, 2015 1:20 AM
Subject: Re: something to push adobe to make their applications accessible
Flash is on the way out, HTML5 is replacing it.
On 15 Apr 2015, at 2:10 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Interesting twist. Of course I would guess you would have to show that you
really did experience harm from their problematic updater rather than just the
potential of harm. I just tried doing the updater by downloading it from the
Adobe Flash web site and it seemed somewhat usable. It downloads as a disk
image, I open that up and find the updater app, open that up and it asks about
how to handle future updates with a couple unlabeled radio buttons but the
descriptive text is to the right of each one. So I pick one and continue and
after a bit it finished. You do have to quit Safari or the updater will
complain and stop. Of course once it's installed it still doesn't make the
content generated by Flash accessible. This was on OSX 10.10.3.
CB
On 4/14/15 11:48 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
Even if the technology may put your computer at risk for data theft
because as a screen reader user, you can’t access the updater through it’s
application?
On 15/04/2015, at 1:41 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries
<macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Hmm, usually the web lawsuits I've read revolve around lack of access
to a particular service or product and not around a particular technology. So
if the Target or United Airlines web site was inaccessible because of using
Flash, that would put those companies on the hook for choosing their internet
technology poorly, not Adobe. Not sure outside the states but I think US
private sector doesn't have a requirement to make any old web site/technology
accessible although the circuit courts are split on whether the ADA applies or
not. Two cases were dismissed in the 9th circuit on April 1st (Netflix and
Ebay) because neither company has a physical place. I think that's too narrow
but I'm not a lawyer.
CB
On 4/14/15 8:46 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
Hi All,
I was doing some house cleaning and saw a flash player image opened
in my disk utility. I wondered what the hell the flash player image was doing
there, though I hadn’t opened a disk image for a year or so. Then I checked
whether the updater was accessible. No go. There are several critical updates
since I last installed it, not knowing where or which site incorporates flash.
However, I’ve installed a plugin to deny flash any playing since it’s just not
accessible.
Then I started turning wheels in my head and thought maybe a good way
to get adobe to make their flash accessible, or at least their setup/update
interface is to sue them for no accessibility, on the ground that screen reader
users cannot access the critical updates through the alerts we are given when
they are available. This may put computers at risk etc etc, but the point is
not to make money (which i doubt in any perspective is possible on such a case)
but to spotlight the fact that they have NOT made their flash component
accessible, or any other as a matter of fact.
I know flash is in decline, but it still exists around. And I don’t
want my system to be unsecure through an opening I have no control of, due to
its inaccessibility.
Open to discussion
Best regards,
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