Flash is on the way out, HTML5 is replacing it.

> On 15 Apr 2015, at 2:10 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
> 
> Interesting twist. Of course I would guess you would have to show that you 
> really did experience harm from their problematic updater rather than just 
> the potential of harm. I just tried doing the updater by downloading it from 
> the Adobe Flash web site and it seemed somewhat usable. It downloads as a 
> disk image, I open that up and find the updater app, open that up and it asks 
> about how to handle future updates with a couple unlabeled radio buttons but 
> the descriptive text is to the right of each one. So I pick one and continue 
> and after a bit it finished. You do have to quit Safari or the updater will 
> complain and stop. Of course once it's installed it still doesn't make the 
> content generated by Flash accessible. This was on OSX 10.10.3.
> 
> CB
> 
> On 4/14/15 11:48 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>> Even if the technology may put your computer at risk for data theft because 
>> as a screen reader user, you can’t access the updater through it’s 
>> application?
>> 
>>  
>>> On 15/04/2015, at 1:41 pm, 'Chris Blouch' via MacVisionaries 
>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hmm, usually the web lawsuits I've read revolve around lack of access to a 
>>> particular service or product and not around a particular technology. So if 
>>> the Target or United Airlines web site was inaccessible because of using 
>>> Flash, that would put those companies on the hook for choosing their 
>>> internet technology poorly, not Adobe. Not sure outside the states but I 
>>> think US private sector doesn't have a requirement to make any old web 
>>> site/technology accessible although the circuit courts are split on whether 
>>> the ADA applies or not. Two cases were dismissed in the 9th circuit on 
>>> April 1st (Netflix and Ebay) because neither company has a physical place. 
>>> I think that's too narrow but I'm not a lawyer.
>>> 
>>> CB
>>> 
>>> On 4/14/15 8:46 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote:
>>>> Hi All,
>>>> 
>>>> I was doing some house cleaning and saw a flash player image opened in my 
>>>> disk utility. I wondered what the hell the flash player image was doing 
>>>> there, though I hadn’t opened a disk image for a year or so. Then I 
>>>> checked whether the updater was accessible. No go. There are several 
>>>> critical updates since I last installed it, not knowing where or which 
>>>> site incorporates flash. However, I’ve installed a plugin to deny flash 
>>>> any playing since it’s just not accessible.
>>>> 
>>>> Then I started turning wheels in my head and thought maybe a good way to 
>>>> get adobe to make their flash accessible, or at least their setup/update 
>>>> interface is to sue them for no accessibility, on the ground that screen 
>>>> reader users cannot access the critical updates through the alerts we are 
>>>> given when they are available. This may put computers at risk etc etc, but 
>>>> the point is not to make money (which i doubt in any perspective is 
>>>> possible on such a case) but to spotlight the fact that they have NOT made 
>>>> their flash component accessible, or any other as a matter of fact.
>>>> 
>>>> I know flash is in decline, but it still exists around. And I don’t want 
>>>> my system to be unsecure through an opening I have no control of, due to 
>>>> its inaccessibility.
>>>> 
>>>> Open to discussion
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards,
>>>> 
>>>> 
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