Though I love their products, and shall continue to use them both in a personal as well as business environment, I wholeheartedly agree with your thoughts regarding employment with them. :)
Chris. --- Check out my web site at: http://www.clgproductions.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Anders Holmberg To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2015 3:23 PM Subject: Re: Something that majorly bothers me about Apple Hello. Well if they are so seecret about how to get a job i wouldn't even bother with them. 19 mar 2015 kl. 20:01 skrev Christopher-Mark Gilland <clgillan...@gmail.com>: First off, this isn't a complaint, nor is it a drama rant, as much as it's just something that really has me a bit unsettled. So don't worry. If you're not for reading, excuse the language, bitch session mail, then don't worry! I promise that is not at all the nature of the following message. I cross my heart, so please just hear me out on this. I was eating breakfast this morning with both my grandmother and a very very dear friend of mine who is a next door neighbor. We all three got to talking about the job industry and how with my expertees, and with my level of technical skills when it comes to Apple products both from an accessibility standpoint as well as just in general, how I really probably could be a major benefit to the Apple user consumer market. I confess that I have considered employment through Apple several times before, but I guess I never really took it all that seriously. I mean, I did, but I didn't. Anyway, long story short, I got to thinking about our discussion once I got back home. the more I thought about it, the more I realized that they are right. I really could! make a difference, most likely. So, I started brainstorming what department would I probably do the best at, and do I feel needs a team leader as myself. Naturally, the more I thought about it, the more I kept coming back to the Accessibility department. So, I finally said, ok, I'm going to give Apple Accessibility a call, and just see what exactly the criteria would be. Obviously, I'd have to move either to Austin or somewhere in Calafornia. That goes without saying. I'd very much be willing to do either, if it meant me getting hiered. So, I called and, ironically, got another gentlemen named Chris... go figure. Anyway, this is what bothers me big time! I asked him what the criteria is. He was incredibly, and I do mean incredibly! cryptic. He really wouldn't go into even the slightest bit of detail. He basically said, I'm not authorized to tell you this information. I'm like, ok, I'm not asking for you to give me the whole novel rundown. I'm only asking from a very general standpoint. Obviously, I'd have to transfer my geographic location to where one of the call centers are... that's inevitable. He's just like, well, yeah? You would... I'm like, ow'w'w, kayyy? and... what about training? I presume that I'd be required to get several weeks worth of training, wouldn't I? He's like, that, I cannot go into. I told him, OK, sir? I live in North Carolina. If it wind up being Calafornia that I have to move to, that is almost all the way on the other side of the country. Granted, I wouldn't move until I knew if I'd get the job, but still... that would be quite a huge lifechanging commitment. Especially moving away from all of my family loved ones, etc. He's like, OK, well, sir, I can't tell ya. I'm sorry. I asked him, then, who can. He said, I dunno. I'm not at liberty to say. I asked him why such the discrete nature. All I'm asking is generally how to start the process, no more no less. If he cannot tell me, then please tell me someone who can. He continued to be extremely vague. Finally, after a little bit of sweet talking, he finally ever so slightly mellowed up and told me, OK, look. You have to first be employed through Apple as just a standard advisor. Then, eventually, you'd be promoted up to Senior Advisor level whereby you'd then get onboard with the Accessibility Support team. I told him that made sense. I asked him, ok, then, no wonder you're a little secretive, as I'm not onboard with Apple right now, let alone a Senior Advisor, so you can't! really talk to me about how to become one. So... let's go another avenue. How do I become an Apple Advisor employ in general. Again, uh, sir, I really am not supposed to tell you. I'm like, then D*** it? how do people get hiered by you guys! If you won't tell them where to go, or how to get started with the application process, I mean, yeah, there is http://cooljobs.apple.com but that still doesn't really answer my question. I don't want to work for a company who is so quiet about their employmentship process. I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous! Apple has always been very secretive. If it's the whole public seed betas of OSX, it's public! It's free! Anyone! can sign up! So what the blue flying heck! What's the point of NDA with that type of setup. Fine! If you don't wanna tell me, I'll just sign up myself, and then find out the NDA stuff for myself. I get! NDA. I get! confidentiality legistics, but give! me a! freaking! break for god sake! If it's not that, it's Apple being very quiet about their job offerings. If it's not that, it's them not wanting to tell me what cities have call centers, or if I could work with a hardware/soft sip phone from home connected to a PBX system logged into their queue. It's just one quiet thing after another. What about the other day when all ICloud based services went down for over 60% of the whole day? I could be wrong, and if I am, forgive me, but I don't think to this very day! they've disclosed to the public even on very very general terms their explaination for why they went down. I can tell you now, my local newstalk radio station was p?... owed. I mean, the least! they could a done is given us a very very terse, general! reason for the downtime. Again, it's not like I'm asking for the full in Paul Harvy's words... rest of the story... So what gives? Does anyone know not so much how! to get hiered as an advisor, but more what the requirements are to be so? I don't speak of, have no criminal background, have a drug free resulted drugscreening test. Duh! I know all that! I'm not that far gone. I'm saying more from a technical standpoint, what is required. the guy even told me, check around, as some agencies actually can help you become hiered. I'm like, Oh, yeah, I know, like Voc Rehab etc. He's like, no no no. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about direct agencies that work along side us. I asked him to elaborate, which of corse, he wouldn't. I just don't know how comfortable that I feel working for a company who is gonna be so top-secret. Since when did they become NSA! Lord a mercy! You all's thoughts? 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