Jonathan,

Without a doubt. That was actually the next thing I did after posting my rant. 
They must hate me there as I bombard them with every little thing I find that I 
think needs fixing.

Keith

> On Oct 21, 2014, at 6:37 PM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Keith, I hope you'll join me in dropping Apple Accessibility a friendly 
> note about this. It's certainly suboptimal from an efficiency perspective, 
> and turning off group by conversation is not the answer. It needs to work 
> efficiently.
> Jonathan Mosen
> Mosen Consulting
> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>> On 22/10/2014, at 11:21 am, Keith Watson <tkwatso...@gmail.com 
>> <mailto:tkwatso...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Johnathan,
>> 
>> So after reading this thread I see that nobody has an answer for you. I am 
>> sorry to say that neither do I I would be very interested in finding a 
>> solution to this issue as well. Its so damned time consuming that I find 
>> myself blowing away all the messages in the mailbox after the first 3 or 4 
>> threads that piss me off. When and if you do find a solution please let me 
>> know so that I can enjoy lists once again 
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Keith
>> 
>>> On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org 
>>> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at 
>>> least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of 
>>> mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy.
>>> There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, 
>>> although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally 
>>> skipped references to it.
>>> I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of 
>>> speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. 
>>> Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've 
>>> been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message 
>>> conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants 
>>> before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it 
>>> was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd 
>>> prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to 
>>> hear the participants, they could be spoken second.
>>> When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current 
>>> behaviour can add a long time to the experience.
>>> Thanks.
>>> Jonathan Mosen
>>> Mosen Consulting
>>> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training
>>> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/>
>>> 
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