Personally I have just turned off threaded conversations in standard view. Actually I am quite enjoying the change. Although I have lost the threaded conversation I find that my efficiency has increased as preview is available on all messages which used not to be the case in conversation threads. I am finding it quicker to just cursor down through my messages and after hearing the first few lines of a mail jut hitting delete in most cases. I will most likely not return to conversation threads even if this gets fixed.
David Griffith > On 21 Oct 2014, at 20:52, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: > > Ordinarily, I'd tell you to switch to Classic View, in which you can sort the > headers of the table manually. I did this in Mavericks, and while you do lose > the message preview from Standard View, you *can* set the subject to be read > first if you want. > > In 10.10.0, however, there's a bug where VoiceOver says "conversation, > collapsed disclosure triangle" before every message. This happens even if a > message is not part of a thread, and is an even bigger hit to efficiency than > the string of sender names. Until it gets fixed, I would steer clear of > Classic View. Aside from that, I have not found a way to toggle this yet, > which is odd since iOS has a setting for the same thing. >> On Oct 21, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org >> <mailto:jmo...@mosen.org>> wrote: >> >> Hi everyone, I'm really enjoying all the new goodness in Yosemite, and at >> least on my system, it's magnitudes better than the first release of >> mavericks was. Plenty to enjoy. >> There's one efficiency hit I've taken that I've not seen commented on here, >> although with so many messages of late, it's possible I've accidentally >> skipped references to it. >> I use Standard View in Mail, and Yosemite has adopted the iOS approach of >> speaking the names of all participants in a mail thread before the subject. >> Does anyone know if there is a way to move this around? For example, I've >> been away from the list for a couple of days and came back to a 90 message >> conversation. I had to sit through a very very long list of participants >> before I could even hear the subject of the thread to determine whether it >> was of interest to me or not. That's not particularly efficient. What I'd >> prefer to do is hear the conversation's subject first, then if I have to >> hear the participants, they could be spoken second. >> When reading an email list where threads can get quite long, this current >> behaviour can add a long time to the experience. >> Thanks. >> Jonathan Mosen >> Mosen Consulting >> Blindness technology eBooks, tutorials and training >> http://Mosen.org <http://mosen.org/> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries >> <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout >> <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com <mailto:mehg...@icloud.com> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries > <http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
