Thanks for the confirmation that the order has changed. I noticed that but yes, it still works just as well for me as it did in Mavericks. And it did work for me in Mavericks :-) I use this app constantly throughout my day as I am sure many of you do.
-- Cheryl I tried and tried to turn over a new leaf. I got crumpled wads of tear-stained paper thrown in the trash! Then God gave me a new heart and life: His joy for my despairing tears! And now, every day: "This I call to mind, and therefore I have hope: The steadfast love of the Lord never ceases; his mercies never come to an end; they are new every morning; great is your faithfulness." (Lamentations 3:21-23 ESV) > On Oct 20, 2014, at 2:21 AM, M. Taylor <mk...@ucla.edu> wrote: > > Hello Pamela, > > You wrote: > "Is it different than the junk they released with this most recent OS?" > > It truly saddens me that you feel that the current build of Mail is junky. > > While I think I can understand your frustration, I want you to know that I > and others worked very hard to make sure that the core functionality of the > application was not lost in this, the first commercial release of the > application. > > In the previous version of Mail, using the VoiceOver + arrow key combos made > sense in terms of the order in which items were placed into focus. Now, as > you have no doubt discovered, navigating from the Mailboxes Table to the > Messages table, for example, is no longer linear. In fact, the order in > which they appear makes no sense, at all, from a VoiceOver user's > perspective, in my opinion of course. > > Please know that these kinds of things have been bugged and Apple is quite > aware of them. I do not know why they were not addressed in this release > but rest assured that I and others will continue to press for improvements. > > > I, personally, don't use the Classic view but, with just one or two little > changes in keystroke combos, the Standard view works just as well as it did > in Maverick. > > I do not write this because I am trying to save face for Apple, I am writing > this because I believe in the power of this application. > > I will be happy to help you get your Mail groove back, using Yosemite Mail > by discussing the application in more detail, off-list, should you wish. > > Mark > > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Pamela Francis > Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 12:11 AM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: mail in 10.10 > > Hi guys, > Through my involvement with this list, I have constantly heard people > referred to classic view in mail. What is it, how do you get there? Is it > different than the junk they released with this most recent OS? > > Pam Francis > > On Oct 19, 2014, at 1:27 AM, Nicholas Parsons > <mr.nicholas.pars...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Mail 8.0 is working well for me, though in Classic view all messages seem to > be marked as conversations whether they are or not, and in standard view > they are all marked as unread whether they are or not. However, I like the > fact that the unread status is back to the beginning of the info announced > in standard view. Apart from this, it seems snappier than ever, but > responsiveness depends on many factors and your milage may vary. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.