No, I don't mind. BTW: does auto interaction via tab interfere with this table grouping thing? That's one thing I didn't test out. I'm pretty sure you could still use tab key alongside the "groups items within" setting, can't you?
On Oct 13, 2014, at 4:03 PM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks > Yu are entirely right. I was assuming Group as opposed to Dom mode. When I > applied the change you suggested I could indeed skip tables but on balance I > prefer the automatic interaction feature.If I had to work with enough pages > with multiple large tables I would probably seth up keyboard commander but I > do not think I will bother just now. > Do you mind if I include your credited advice in my next Podcast? > > David Griffith > On 13 Oct 2014, at 20:47, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> David, I think there is a confusion between which group mode setting makes >> this work. In VO utility, under WEB/Navigation tab, there is a set of radio >> buttons for choosing whether to navigate by DOM or Group mode. Next to those >> buttons is a checkbox for "group items within when navigating web tables. >> This is the setting that will collapse web tables to a single group item. it >> operates independently from the dom/group navigation setting. >> So, you can have VO set to navigate by either DOM or Group mode and tables >> will still be fully expanded if the checkbox for "grouping items within" is >> not checked. Conversely, if it is checked, the Dom/group setting is >> irrelevant and tables will be collapsed regardless. >> >> It works fine and I can navigate the sites with the large tables and All I >> encounter is a single item saying "table". I can now either interact or >> bypass that table item. >> >> >> " >> On Oct 13, 2014, at 2:34 PM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Thanks but for some reason this did not work for me in group mode, possibly >>> as I think I have settings to interact automatically with tables. >>> >>> However experimenting I found another possible work around which jumps you >>> to the end of a table. >>> >>> I went to a table and press shift VO backslash which put you into and >>> then announcers headers. The interesting thing is that if you then vo >>> right through these headers then at the end Voiceover announces end of >>> table. I found that you had indeed been jumped from the headers to the end >>> of the table. and vo cursoring around does indeed put you at the end of >>> the table. >>> >>> If you did have a large table with perhaps 50 or more rows this might be an >>> alternative way to jump to the end of the table assuming you do not have >>> loads of headers. >>> >>> David Griffith >>> >>> On 13 Oct 2014, at 17:36, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> If you use Group navigation in Safari, then the Tables are not >>>> automatically interacted with and you can thus bypass them quickly if you >>>> don't wish to read what's inside. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On Oct 13, 2014, at 6:28 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I was thinking of doing my next Safari Podcast on Tables. Anyway what I >>>>> find is that if I am navigating using Quick Nav and the T key then >>>>> pressing T will jump me to the first part of the table. Pressing T again >>>>> will jump me to the next table and I navigate back from there to the end >>>>> of the last table if that is where I want to be. >>>>> If there is only one table on the page then pressing T twice will >>>>> announce table not found on the second t press. However my focus will be >>>>> immediately after the single table on the page and I can again navigate >>>>> back up into the end of the table. >>>>> >>>>> If somebody has a more elegant solution I also be interested to hear but >>>>> that is the work around I use. >>>>> >>>>> David Griffith >>>>> On 12 Oct 2014, at 21:34, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Is there a command to skipping past tables and Safari. Often I find very >>>>>> large tables on the certain website and I want to quickly jump past it >>>>>> to the end of the table. 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