David, I think there is a confusion between which group mode setting makes this 
work. In VO utility, under WEB/Navigation tab, there is a set of radio buttons 
for choosing whether to navigate by DOM or Group mode. Next to those buttons is 
a checkbox for "group items within when navigating web tables. This is the 
setting that will collapse web tables to a single group item. it operates 
independently from the dom/group navigation setting.
So, you can have VO set to navigate by either DOM or Group mode and tables will 
still be fully expanded if the checkbox for "grouping items within" is not 
checked. Conversely, if it is checked, the Dom/group setting is irrelevant and 
tables will be collapsed regardless.

It works fine and I can navigate the sites with the large tables and All I 
encounter is a single item  saying "table". I can now either interact or bypass 
that table item.


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On Oct 13, 2014, at 2:34 PM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks but for some reason this did not work for me in group mode, possibly 
> as I think I have settings to interact automatically with tables.
> 
> However experimenting I found another possible work around which jumps you to 
> the end of a table.
> 
> I went  to a table and press shift VO backslash which put you into  and then 
> announcers  headers. The interesting thing is that if you  then vo right 
> through these  headers  then at the end Voiceover announces end of table. I 
> found that you had indeed been jumped from the headers to the end of the 
> table.  and vo cursoring around does indeed put you at the end of the table.
> 
> If you did have a large table with perhaps 50 or more rows this might be an 
> alternative  way to  jump to the end of the table assuming you do not have 
> loads of headers.
> 
> David Griffith
> 
> On 13 Oct 2014, at 17:36, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> If you use Group navigation in Safari, then the Tables are not automatically 
>> interacted with and you can thus bypass them quickly if you don't wish to 
>> read what's inside.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Oct 13, 2014, at 6:28 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I was  thinking of doing my next Safari Podcast on Tables. Anyway what I 
>>> find is that if I am navigating using Quick Nav and the T key then pressing 
>>> T will jump me to the first part of the table. Pressing T again will jump 
>>> me to the next table and I navigate back from there to the end of the last 
>>> table if that is where I want to be.
>>> If there is only one table on the page then pressing T twice will announce 
>>> table not found on the second t press. However my focus will be immediately 
>>> after the single table on the page and I can again navigate back up into 
>>> the end of the table.
>>> 
>>> If somebody has a more elegant solution I also be interested to hear but 
>>> that is the work around I use.
>>> 
>>> David Griffith       
>>> On 12 Oct 2014, at 21:34, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Is there a command to skipping past tables and Safari. Often I find very 
>>>> large tables on the certain website and I want to quickly jump past it to 
>>>> the end of the table. Is there a command I can use to do this.
>>>> 
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