Thanks Yu are entirely right. I was assuming Group as opposed to Dom mode. When I applied the change you suggested I could indeed skip tables but on balance I prefer the automatic interaction feature.If I had to work with enough pages with multiple large tables I would probably seth up keyboard commander but I do not think I will bother just now. Do you mind if I include your credited advice in my next Podcast?
David Griffith On 13 Oct 2014, at 20:47, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: > David, I think there is a confusion between which group mode setting makes > this work. In VO utility, under WEB/Navigation tab, there is a set of radio > buttons for choosing whether to navigate by DOM or Group mode. Next to those > buttons is a checkbox for "group items within when navigating web tables. > This is the setting that will collapse web tables to a single group item. it > operates independently from the dom/group navigation setting. > So, you can have VO set to navigate by either DOM or Group mode and tables > will still be fully expanded if the checkbox for "grouping items within" is > not checked. Conversely, if it is checked, the Dom/group setting is > irrelevant and tables will be collapsed regardless. > > It works fine and I can navigate the sites with the large tables and All I > encounter is a single item saying "table". I can now either interact or > bypass that table item. > > > " > On Oct 13, 2014, at 2:34 PM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Thanks but for some reason this did not work for me in group mode, possibly >> as I think I have settings to interact automatically with tables. >> >> However experimenting I found another possible work around which jumps you >> to the end of a table. >> >> I went to a table and press shift VO backslash which put you into and then >> announcers headers. The interesting thing is that if you then vo right >> through these headers then at the end Voiceover announces end of table. I >> found that you had indeed been jumped from the headers to the end of the >> table. and vo cursoring around does indeed put you at the end of the table. >> >> If you did have a large table with perhaps 50 or more rows this might be an >> alternative way to jump to the end of the table assuming you do not have >> loads of headers. >> >> David Griffith >> >> On 13 Oct 2014, at 17:36, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> If you use Group navigation in Safari, then the Tables are not >>> automatically interacted with and you can thus bypass them quickly if you >>> don't wish to read what's inside. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Oct 13, 2014, at 6:28 AM, David Griffith <daj.griff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I was thinking of doing my next Safari Podcast on Tables. Anyway what I >>>> find is that if I am navigating using Quick Nav and the T key then >>>> pressing T will jump me to the first part of the table. Pressing T again >>>> will jump me to the next table and I navigate back from there to the end >>>> of the last table if that is where I want to be. >>>> If there is only one table on the page then pressing T twice will announce >>>> table not found on the second t press. However my focus will be >>>> immediately after the single table on the page and I can again navigate >>>> back up into the end of the table. >>>> >>>> If somebody has a more elegant solution I also be interested to hear but >>>> that is the work around I use. >>>> >>>> David Griffith >>>> On 12 Oct 2014, at 21:34, Phil Halton <philh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Is there a command to skipping past tables and Safari. Often I find very >>>>> large tables on the certain website and I want to quickly jump past it to >>>>> the end of the table. 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