Hi,

To the comment about blind people using a touchscreen. I know a couple  
of sighted people who don't find it such a good experience, either, so  
I guess it applies to blind and sighted folks alike.

I'm using a trackpad on my Macbook when doing most of my work, and at  
first when I heard about it, I thought I wouldn't like it at all. But  
I'm absolutely loving the experience, and trying the same set of  
gestures on the iPhone just made me love it even more. I found typing  
of particular interest, since this is not something you can do on a  
trackpad. That was most certainly different. A strange experience. I  
don't have an iPhone, but I have tried an iPhone on numerous  
occasions. i'd like to have one, though typing is, without a doubt,  
the most confusing aspect. At least, it is for me.

One aspect of a touchscreen that I have always thoroughly enjoyed, on  
an iPhone or a Macbook, is the concept of being able to touch an item  
and you'll be moved to the item of interest. It's just incredibly fast.

Regards,
Nic
On Oct 2, 2009, at 3:11 AM, Lynn Schneider wrote:

> Hi Jean-Philippe.
> I agree with you that typing on the iPhone is not as fast as with a  
> standard keyboard, but you would be surprised at how proficient you  
> can become with practice.  I have the iPod Touch.  I have found that  
> one of the tricks to becoming really proficient with the touch  
> screen is learning your applications and where things are on the  
> screen, specifically the distances between things.  Just as you are  
> very familiar with where things are in your house, such as how far  
> the furniture is from the walls, etc., you learn to very quickly  
> judge the distances between the numbers and where your icons are on  
> the screen.  Another important trick is to get the ergonomics  
> right.  I found that when I first started learning to use the touch  
> screen, I was tensing and contorting my hands in a weird way which  
> caused my fingers to sort of spasm a little.  You have to find a  
> comfortable position, and learn to relax your hands as much as  
> possible.  Since those like me who have been blind from birth have  
> never used a touch screen, it is a new thing and will take a  
> commitment to practice, willingness to learn something totally new  
> and a fair amount of frustration tolerance initially, but  
> perseverance through the learning curve can have a very rewarding  
> outcome.  There are easier options out there and I don't think touch  
> screen technology is appropriate for every blind person, but if you  
> have a sense of adventure, are openminded about new things and have  
> the time and willingness to practice, I'd say go for it!
> On Sep 30, 2009, at 7:00 PM, Jean-Philippe     wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>> The first thing I saw, sorry, heard, was a demo video on Apple's  
>> accessibility page. It was really impressive, and I already knew  
>> that mastering such a revolutionary interface could not be achieved  
>> in a day.
>> Well, never mind, I was excited enough to start calling shop after  
>> shop in Paris to see if there was one available to try out. And so  
>> here I was, this very morning, in a phone store in Paris, my hands  
>> on this new magic toy.
>> I was glad I had read part of the instructions before I came, and  
>> activating voice-over on the iPhone was quite easy, much to the  
>> astonishment of the vendor.
>> I started fiddling and was soon surprised about how quickly I was  
>> able to make friend with the objects on the object. It's really fun  
>> to manipulate indeed.
>> Unfortunately, it was impossible to take the iPhone for a walk as  
>> it was stock inside a kind of anti-theft display case and so I  
>> tried to imagine how I would use the iPhone as I'm currently using  
>> my Nokia. And that's where I think I found a limitation to this  
>> wonderful interface. Don't misunderstand me, I absolutely admire  
>> the technical prowess, but you see, the first thing I need a phone  
>> for is to phone people. With a physical keyboard, it is actually  
>> possible to dial a number while walking in the street and holding  
>> the phone in one hand, same for SMS. The problem with the iPhone is  
>> that you can't rely on tactile information  at all, and I'm afraid  
>> that using voice-over for something as simple as      or typing text  
>> can only be slower than using a physical keyboard.
>> So my bottom line is that the iPhone is probably a wonderful pocket  
>> computer that can be used as a phone, but I don't see it as the  
>> ideal tool for actually calling people.
>> This sensation I want to share with you only came after 15 minutes  
>> of playing with the iPhone and I would love to know what someone  
>> who's been using it for a longer time thinks .
>> Cheers,
>> JPR
>>
>>
>>
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >


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