Hi, That's very interesting. The only thing I recall that sounded anything like this, might just be a simple rumor. But that was a Nokia solution where the screen would somehow look like it was providing braille output, though only for reading text messages.
I haven't heard of anything that sounds anything like the thing you're explaining, though. I did hear Apple might be coming out with a game console with VoiceOver, but that's definitely a rumor. At least, I haven't heard any news about it. But that is sort of off-topic, but since we're talking about braille anyway... Regards, Nic. On Oct 2, 2009, at 12:20 AM, Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: > Dear Kevin, > this is not what I was talking about. Sensitive feedback, I don't > know if it is the right English term, is a system where you can feel > changes on the screen's aspect itself when you perform certain > things. A bit like Braille displays, but on the entire screen > surface, so I imagine because I don't really know much about it. The > article I saw was in French, and I wish I knew where I kept it so I > could tell you more. > Sorry if this becomes off topic, but the news came from Apple in the > first place. > Still looking for it. > JP > > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Kevin Gibbs > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:58 PM > Subject: RE: iPhone, my first impression > > JP, the sensitive touchscreen is here. Snow Leopard equipped Macs > now have a touchscreen that recognizes the sensation of two or more > fingers touching the screen at once. Different actions are executed > depending on how many fingers you use. This is true both on the Mac > and on the iPhone 3GS. > Kevin > -----Original Message----- > From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf OfJean-Philippe > Rykiel > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:11 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: iPhone, my first impression > > Dear Christina, > if I had to choose today I think I would go for an iPhone. I'm very > happy with my Nokia for now and I think that the touchscreen > interface is as disconcerting as it is seducing. But one thing you > should consider is that if you want to get the same features from a > Nokia, including the GPS and a text-to-speech software, it would > also be more expensive than the iPhone. > Now, about waiting, I would say it depends on how patient you are. I > waited for windows XP to get me a PC and I'm very glad I didn't have > to go through all the pre-XP nightmare. I also think that folks who > will start using the Mac with snow leopard will be very lucky. > I read in an article that Apple was working on some new kind of > touchscreen with sensitive feedback. I don't know how far they've > been, but that was in some computer magazine a year ago so it's no > secret. That would be nice wouldn't it. > Cheers, > JPR > http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Christina > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: iPhone, my first impression > > > Hi, I'm considering getting an iphone. I've never had an accessible > phone. The only thing I've ever been able to do with a cell is place > or answer a call. I'd like to be able to do more like use contacts, > calendar, and caller id. Since, you've switched from Nokia to iphone > would you go back? Do you feel you can do everything and more with > the iphone or are there some aspects and features of the Nokias that > you miss that I should consider? Are Nokias and the third party text > to speech software compatible with the mac? I'm also wondering if I > should wait until next summer to purchase an iphone. I wonder what > features and such apple is working on for the phone next year. > > Thanks, > Christina > On Oct 1, 2009, at 2:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > > > > Hi there, > > I come from the Nokia world myself, and i have found no problems > > phoning folks while out and about. With some training, you should be > > able to master the virtual keybord quite well and as for phoning, > > there's at least 3 ways of doing it. 1: use the dial pad, a little > > slow in the beginning, but it works. > > 2: use your contacts list, it's reachable either by itself by going > > into contacts or by pressing the "contacts" button from the phone > app. > > 3: use voice control, works both with numbers in your address book > and > > numbers not yet there. > > Hope this helps somewhat. > > /Krister > > > > > > 1 okt 2009 kl. 01.00 skrev Jean-Philippe Rykiel: > > > >> Dear all, > >> The first thing I saw, sorry, heard, was a demo video on Apple's > >> accessibility page. It was really impressive, and I already knew > >> that mastering such a revolutionary interface could not be achieved > >> in a day. > >> Well, never mind, I was excited enough to start calling shop after > >> shop in Paris to see if there was one available to try out. And so > >> here I was, this very morning, in a phone store in Paris, my hands > >> on this new magic toy. > >> I was glad I had read part of the instructions before I came, and > >> activating voice-over on the iPhone was quite easy, much to the > >> astonishment of the vendor. > >> I started fiddling and was soon surprised about how quickly I was > >> able to make friend with the objects on the object. It's really fun > >> to manipulate indeed. > >> Unfortunately, it was impossible to take the iPhone for a walk as > it > >> was stock inside a kind of anti-theft display case and so I tried > to > >> imagine how I would use the iPhone as I'm currently using my Nokia. > >> And that's where I think I found a limitation to this wonderful > >> interface. Don't misunderstand me, I absolutely admire the > technical > >> prowess, but you see, the first thing I need a phone for is to > phone > >> people. With a physical keyboard, it is actually possible to dial a > >> number while walking in the street and holding the phone in one > >> hand, same for SMS. The problem with the iPhone is that you can't > >> rely on tactile information at all, and I'm afraid that using > voice- > >> over for something as simple as dialling or typing text can only be > >> slower than using a physical keyboard. > >> So my bottom line is that the iPhone is probably a wonderful pocket > >> computer that can be used as a phone, but I don't see it as the > >> ideal tool for actually calling people. > >> This sensation I want to share with you only came after 15 minutes > >> of playing with the iPhone and I would love to know what someone > >> who's been using it for a longer time thinks . > >> Cheers, > >> JPR > >> > >> > >> > >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel > >> > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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