MessageDear Kevin, this is not what I was talking about. Sensitive feedback, I don't know if it is the right English term, is a system where you can feel changes on the screen's aspect itself when you perform certain things. A bit like Braille displays, but on the entire screen surface, so I imagine because I don't really know much about it. The article I saw was in French, and I wish I knew where I kept it so I could tell you more. Sorry if this becomes off topic, but the news came from Apple in the first place. Still looking for it. JP
http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message ----- From: Kevin Gibbs To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 11:58 PM Subject: RE: iPhone, my first impression JP, the sensitive touchscreen is here. Snow Leopard equipped Macs now have a touchscreen that recognizes the sensation of two or more fingers touching the screen at once. Different actions are executed depending on how many fingers you use. This is true both on the Mac and on the iPhone 3GS. Kevin -----Original Message----- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe Rykiel Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 4:11 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iPhone, my first impression Dear Christina, if I had to choose today I think I would go for an iPhone. I'm very happy with my Nokia for now and I think that the touchscreen interface is as disconcerting as it is seducing. But one thing you should consider is that if you want to get the same features from a Nokia, including the GPS and a text-to-speech software, it would also be more expensive than the iPhone. Now, about waiting, I would say it depends on how patient you are. I waited for windows XP to get me a PC and I'm very glad I didn't have to go through all the pre-XP nightmare. I also think that folks who will start using the Mac with snow leopard will be very lucky. I read in an article that Apple was working on some new kind of touchscreen with sensitive feedback. I don't know how far they've been, but that was in some computer magazine a year ago so it's no secret. That would be nice wouldn't it. Cheers, JPR http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel ----- Original Message ----- From: Christina To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:45 PM Subject: Re: iPhone, my first impression Hi, I'm considering getting an iphone. I've never had an accessible phone. The only thing I've ever been able to do with a cell is place or answer a call. I'd like to be able to do more like use contacts, calendar, and caller id. Since, you've switched from Nokia to iphone would you go back? Do you feel you can do everything and more with the iphone or are there some aspects and features of the Nokias that you miss that I should consider? Are Nokias and the third party text to speech software compatible with the mac? I'm also wondering if I should wait until next summer to purchase an iphone. I wonder what features and such apple is working on for the phone next year. Thanks, Christina On Oct 1, 2009, at 2:47 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > > Hi there, > I come from the Nokia world myself, and i have found no problems > phoning folks while out and about. With some training, you should be > able to master the virtual keybord quite well and as for phoning, > there's at least 3 ways of doing it. 1: use the dial pad, a little > slow in the beginning, but it works. > 2: use your contacts list, it's reachable either by itself by going > into contacts or by pressing the "contacts" button from the phone app. > 3: use voice control, works both with numbers in your address book and > numbers not yet there. > Hope this helps somewhat. > /Krister > > > 1 okt 2009 kl. 01.00 skrev Jean-Philippe Rykiel: > >> Dear all, >> The first thing I saw, sorry, heard, was a demo video on Apple's >> accessibility page. It was really impressive, and I already knew >> that mastering such a revolutionary interface could not be achieved >> in a day. >> Well, never mind, I was excited enough to start calling shop after >> shop in Paris to see if there was one available to try out. And so >> here I was, this very morning, in a phone store in Paris, my hands >> on this new magic toy. >> I was glad I had read part of the instructions before I came, and >> activating voice-over on the iPhone was quite easy, much to the >> astonishment of the vendor. >> I started fiddling and was soon surprised about how quickly I was >> able to make friend with the objects on the object. It's really fun >> to manipulate indeed. >> Unfortunately, it was impossible to take the iPhone for a walk as it >> was stock inside a kind of anti-theft display case and so I tried to >> imagine how I would use the iPhone as I'm currently using my Nokia. >> And that's where I think I found a limitation to this wonderful >> interface. Don't misunderstand me, I absolutely admire the technical >> prowess, but you see, the first thing I need a phone for is to phone >> people. With a physical keyboard, it is actually possible to dial a >> number while walking in the street and holding the phone in one >> hand, same for SMS. The problem with the iPhone is that you can't >> rely on tactile information at all, and I'm afraid that using voice- >> over for something as simple as dialling or typing text can only be >> slower than using a physical keyboard. >> So my bottom line is that the iPhone is probably a wonderful pocket >> computer that can be used as a phone, but I don't see it as the >> ideal tool for actually calling people. >> This sensation I want to share with you only came after 15 minutes >> of playing with the iPhone and I would love to know what someone >> who's been using it for a longer time thinks . >> Cheers, >> JPR >> >> >> >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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