As far as I have been able to discern over the years, NFB doesn't play games like making up for a poor review by turning around and giving out a good one. I do not always agree with NFB positions but I do feel that they are consistent and intellectually honest when they comment on a technology.
cdh On Sep 30, 2009, at 7:14 PM, Rich Ring wrote: > > I believe that what you're seeing here is that they're trying to > make up for > the grave error they made with the Mac without in fact quite > admitting they > were wrong. You have to read between the lines a bit, but this is > what I > firmly believe. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ben mustill-rose" <bmustillr...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:34 PM > Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB > > > > I do find it rather funny that they slammed a program that ran on a > device with a full sized qwerty keyboard yet there all over the iphone > with its touch screen. > > O well - step in the right direction anyway. > > On 26/09/2009, Kevin Gibbs <kevj...@gmail.com> wrote: >> You have to ask the sighted friend to turn it on in preferences, I >> think. >> K. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe >> Rykiel >> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:30 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB >> >> >> Dear Chris, >> a friend of mine has one of these. Can you simply tell me how to >> turn v o >> on >> and off on his device so I can give it a try. >> Cheers, >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:05 AM >> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB >> >> It's called voiceover and as something that makes a device >> accessible via >> speech and controls, it is voiceover, but with a different voice (not >> Alex) >> and a phone-specific set of gestures instead of keyboard controls. >> That >> said, it's included on every iPhone 3GS and the newer iPod Touch. >> Previous >> models didn't have the hardware performance to run this so there is >> no >> upgrade to get VO on the older devices. >> >> CB >> >> Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote: >> >> Sorry for a very down-to-earth question, but does the IPhone come >> with V O >> as well? >> JPR >> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com> >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:48 PM >> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB >> >> >> Some have difficulty comprehending what is new and, by definition, >> not >> well understood. So they define the new in terms of what's known from >> the past, but when something is a revolution rather than an evolution >> the comparisons fail. Some will lodge those failures as the fault of >> what was being measured and dismiss it as being flawed. Others, more >> rarely, will correctly realize that the measurement framework has >> failed >> and reevaluate their worldview. The NFB has been measuring sharks >> for a >> long while and Apple brought in an leopard. It will take time for the >> definition of 'good' to be redefined. >> >> CB >> >> william lomas wrote: >>> they can soon praise the iPhone yet slam the mac? >>> hyppocrits >>> >>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> > > > -- > Kind regards, BEN. > > email: bmustillr...@gmail.com > msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com > web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---