As far as I have been able to discern over the years, NFB doesn't play  
games like  making up for a poor review by turning around and giving  
out a good one.  I do not always agree with NFB positions but I do  
feel that they are consistent and intellectually honest when they  
comment on a technology.

cdh
On Sep 30, 2009, at 7:14 PM, Rich Ring wrote:

>
> I believe that what you're seeing here is that they're trying to  
> make up for
> the grave error they made with the Mac without in fact quite  
> admitting they
> were wrong.  You have to read between the lines a bit, but this is  
> what I
> firmly believe.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ben mustill-rose" <bmustillr...@gmail.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 6:34 PM
> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>
>
>
> I do find it rather funny that they slammed a program that ran on a
> device with a full sized qwerty keyboard yet there all over the iphone
> with its touch screen.
>
> O well - step in the right direction anyway.
>
> On 26/09/2009, Kevin Gibbs <kevj...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> You have to ask the sighted friend to turn it on in preferences, I  
>> think.
>> K.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe  
>> Rykiel
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:30 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>>
>>
>> Dear Chris,
>> a friend of mine has one of these. Can you simply tell me how to  
>> turn v o
>> on
>> and off on his device so I can give it a try.
>> Cheers,
>> JPR
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>>
>> It's called voiceover and as something that makes a device  
>> accessible via
>> speech and controls, it is voiceover, but with a different voice (not
>> Alex)
>> and a phone-specific set of gestures instead of keyboard controls.  
>> That
>> said, it's included on every iPhone 3GS and the newer iPod Touch.  
>> Previous
>> models didn't have the hardware performance to run this so there is  
>> no
>> upgrade to get VO on the older devices.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote:
>>
>> Sorry for a very down-to-earth question, but does the IPhone come  
>> with V O
>> as well?
>> JPR
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chris Blouch <mailto:cblo...@aol.com>
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:48 PM
>> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>>
>>
>> Some have difficulty comprehending what is new and, by definition,  
>> not
>> well understood. So they define the new in terms of what's known from
>> the past, but when something is a revolution rather than an evolution
>> the comparisons fail. Some will lodge those failures as the fault of
>> what was being measured and dismiss it as being flawed. Others, more
>> rarely, will correctly realize that the measurement framework has  
>> failed
>> and reevaluate their worldview. The NFB has been measuring sharks  
>> for a
>> long while and Apple brought in an leopard. It will take time for the
>> definition of 'good' to be redefined.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> william lomas wrote:
>>> they can soon praise the iPhone yet slam the mac?
>>> hyppocrits
>>>
>>>
>>>>
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>
>
> -- 
> Kind regards, BEN.
>
> email: bmustillr...@gmail.com
> msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com
> web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction)
>
>
>
>
> >


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