I am surprised and happy with their response to the iphone with  
voiceover.  I wonder if NFB will benefit somehow from the accessible  
iphone.
On Sep 25, 2009, at 6:41 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:

> Yes, but you'd have to turn it on using the iTunes acount to which  
> the iPhone is conected. So, you'd have to use the iPhone owner's  
> computer and iTunes acount, not JPR's.
> K.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of kaare dehard
> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 8:17 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>
> or you can hook it up and turn it on in itunes I believe.
> On 2009-09-25, at 7:27 PM, Kevin Gibbs wrote:
>
>> You have to ask the sighted friend to turn it on in preferences, I  
>> think.
>> K.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  
>> [mailto:macvisionar...@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Philippe  
>> Rykiel
>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 5:30 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>>
>> Dear Chris,
>> a friend of mine has one of these. Can you simply tell me how to  
>> turn v o on and off on his device so I can give it a try.
>> Cheers,
>> JPR
>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Chris Blouch
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Sent: Saturday, September 26, 2009 12:05 AM
>> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>>
>> It's called voiceover and as something that makes a device  
>> accessible via speech and controls, it is voiceover, but with a  
>> different voice (not Alex) and a phone-specific set of gestures  
>> instead of keyboard controls. That said, it's included on every  
>> iPhone 3GS and the newer iPod Touch. Previous models didn't have  
>> the hardware performance to run this so there is no upgrade to get  
>> VO on the older devices.
>>
>> CB
>>
>> Jean-Philippe Rykiel wrote:
>>>
>>> Sorry for a very down-to-earth question, but does the IPhone come  
>>> with V O as well?
>>> JPR
>>> http://myspace.com/jeanphilipperykiel
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Chris Blouch
>>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>> Sent: Friday, September 25, 2009 10:48 PM
>>> Subject: Re: iPhone honored by NFB
>>>
>>>
>>> Some have difficulty comprehending what is new and, by definition,  
>>> not
>>> well understood. So they define the new in terms of what's known  
>>> from
>>> the past, but when something is a revolution rather than an  
>>> evolution
>>> the comparisons fail. Some will lodge those failures as the fault of
>>> what was being measured and dismiss it as being flawed. Others, more
>>> rarely, will correctly realize that the measurement framework has  
>>> failed
>>> and reevaluate their worldview. The NFB has been measuring sharks  
>>> for a
>>> long while and Apple brought in an leopard. It will take time for  
>>> the
>>> definition of 'good' to be redefined.
>>>
>>> CB
>>>
>>> william lomas wrote:
>>> > they can soon praise the iPhone yet slam the mac?
>>> > hyppocrits
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
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