Hi. I think I have done a mistake. I bought dragon dictate 4 for the mac. It looks accessible to me, but I am not able to choose language, i thought it would work with other languages than english.
Can anybody help. Best regards Annie. Den 12/03/2014 kl. 22.45 skrev Annie Skov Nielsen <annieskovniel...@gmail.com>: > Hi. > > Can anyone point me to the trial. I would like to buy it mainly because > danish is not supported in apples dictate. > > Best regards Annie. > Den 10/03/2014 kl. 22.17 skrev Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com>: > >> And all this is accessible, right? How does Voiceover handle things like >> word suggestion lists, things that Wiondows screen readers need special >> scripts to understand? On web pages, can you move around with commands like >> "next heading", or at least tell Dragon to "press command option control h"? >> Sorry for the questions, but I've never known a Mac user who also uses >> Dragon, and a client of mine is looking at aa mac since their Windows >> machine is out of date. Between Jaws, J-Say, and Dragon, it would be over a >> thousand dollars just to upgrade, so I suggested using the money on a >> Macbook instead. When I found my trial of Dragon to be totally useless, even >> after enabling it in the privacy settings, I figured the mac was a bad >> choice for this person, but your experiences make me reconsider. >> On Mar 10, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Yes, you can navigate with it. In fact it has hundreds of commands for each >>> of your applications that allow you to execute various commands. I believe >>> you can even create your own. >>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 11:55 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yes I did. >>>> >>>> A question to Dragon users: can you navigate? In Windows, for instance, >>>> you can say "press button" or "move up four" or "press tab". Can Dragon on >>>> the mac do this kind of thing, or is it restricted to dictation only? >>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Did you allow access to the accessibility features of your computer? In >>>>> security settings, select privacy, then Accessibility, and check Dragon >>>>> Dictate. This fixed it for me. >>>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks. I'm not even talking about training, though - I cannot dictate >>>>>> anything. I cannot see how to start or pause dictation, access settings, >>>>>> or anything else. My understanding was that the trial is a time-limited >>>>>> version of the full program, so in theory I should have full access to >>>>>> all features. Either way, just dictating would be more than I can do now. >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Maurice Mines <maurice.mi...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> That afternoon, now then reading this message again you >>>>>>> installed a trial of Dragon. Unfortunately the trial and the full >>>>>>> version do not behave the same. For instance I don't know if in the >>>>>>> trial if you can make many adjustments. Two in the flow version however >>>>>>> once the product is installed the screens leading you through the >>>>>>> training work for the most part one just has to interact with much of >>>>>>> the training materials as they are based in a funny type of HTML. But >>>>>>> overall I found them to be usable. The other thing you might want to >>>>>>> know is that Dragon uses the TextEdit interface in order to store its >>>>>>> text before you transfer it into an application. Although this is very >>>>>>> confusing to a voiceover user. I would strongly suggest that when using >>>>>>> the application used to set up whatever profile you're going to use and >>>>>>> pick from the options in the speech menu. For instance, I prefer to >>>>>>> start my dictation from a sleep state. This way I can isolate the >>>>>>> Dragon functions from the voiceover functions. But if one wanted to one >>>>>>> could start the microphone immediately by any least microphone on >>>>>>> selection for instance. And these all in very different windows. The >>>>>>> best way I know of to keep track of things, if you can is get a braille >>>>>>> display and certainly keep looking at it at all times because the bell >>>>>>> displays can assure you where the cursor is the most part in Michigan >>>>>>> figure voiceovers burial preferences differently. They stated (if not >>>>>>> tried version for yet. But I'm guessing that it is much like version 3 >>>>>>> so once it is installed a blind person should not have many problems >>>>>>> with it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We further note I don't work for the company, but I do use the product >>>>>>> virtually every day. Because of the written expression disorder that I >>>>>>> mentioned last night, without Dragon I probably would not have a job. >>>>>>> Have a good rest of the evening. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sincerely Maurice mines. >>>>>>> student accessibility aid. >>>>>>> Voicemail phone 360-524-0791. >>>>>>> School/work email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu. >>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd love to know what you did then. I installed a trial of Dragon a >>>>>>>> few weeks ago, opened it up, and Voiceover hardly even saw that a >>>>>>>> window was there. I could configure nothing, there were no >>>>>>>> instructions, nothing. Yes, I enabled it in my security settings. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As to screen navigation, I know someone for whom that is a must. This >>>>>>>> person has limited use of one hand and no use of the other, so relies >>>>>>>> on speech commands to do just about everything. A headset is a must, >>>>>>>> true. >>>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Maurice Mines <maurice.mi...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I >>>>>>>>> think we need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. >>>>>>>>> Most people it is true don't need dictation but some of us were >>>>>>>>> actually have verified written expression disorders and other >>>>>>>>> disabling conditions that require the use of dragon would be helpful >>>>>>>>> to make certain that we keep those people than mine. Personally I do >>>>>>>>> use Dragon because of the above-mentioned written expression >>>>>>>>> disorder. I've only used version three until five have had no real >>>>>>>>> problems with voiceover. But I also use a braille wdisplay separate >>>>>>>>> from my normal computing experience. I know that there is some >>>>>>>>> concern about being able to use the product by telling it what to do >>>>>>>>> as far as screen motion I think though that you run the risk of >>>>>>>>> entangling with VoiceOver and that could lead to some headaches. When >>>>>>>>> I get the chance I will actually use version four and will see how >>>>>>>>> good or bad it is with VoiceOver. The concerns that Dragon is >>>>>>>>> inaccessible are not true. I have not had any problems using it after >>>>>>>>> making a few modifications they are minor. The biggest thing one >>>>>>>>> needs to remember is one should use the headset and keep voiceover >>>>>>>>> and Dragon separate as far as >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sincerely, Maurice Mines. >>>>>>>>> Student accessibility aid. >>>>>>>>> Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791. >>>>>>>>> Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dragon for Mac v3.x is inaccessible, even the company admits to >>>>>>>>>> that. I haven't tested out v4 yet. Still, if it lacks things like >>>>>>>>>> voice commands to move around and edit text, or move up and down >>>>>>>>>> menus and tables, I don't see the point. For straight dictation, the >>>>>>>>>> Mac does well. That said, Dragon learns as you correct it, whereas >>>>>>>>>> the mac does not, and Dragon is (from reviews I've read) more >>>>>>>>>> accurate even out of the box, with no training. If you have problems >>>>>>>>>> with the keyboard, look at Dragon, but be sure to test if for >>>>>>>>>> accessibility and the features you will need. If you need basic >>>>>>>>>> dictation and will not be dictating exclusively, I'd save my money. >>>>>>>>>> Those are just my thoughts. >>>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 6:04 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Interesting, I believe the ScanSoft speech recognition is the basis >>>>>>>>>>> for both speech recognition systems. Given that Mac Dictate can now >>>>>>>>>>> be loaded directly on the Mac for continuous speech recognition, >>>>>>>>>>> Dragon would most likely only be beneficial if one needed to use >>>>>>>>>>> more granulated Command and Control rather than just speech >>>>>>>>>>> dictation recognition. That said, I have no idea how well Dragon >>>>>>>>>>> will be integrated with VoiceOver. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>>>>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Mar 2014, at 11:25, Apple boy <christopher...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ditto. Not that I use dictation but $99 is just wow expensive for >>>>>>>>>>>> something that can be done at no additional charge. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards Chris >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/03/2014 22:07, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have not used Dragon, but my first reaction to this is that the >>>>>>>>>>>>> dictation on the Mac is good enough that I would want a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>> benefit more before I would want to spend $99 for it. I find the >>>>>>>>>>>>> one that already comes with Mavericks to be pretty accurate. Do >>>>>>>>>>>>> they let you have a trial first? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dragon is launching a new dictate software for Mac. There is an >>>>>>>>>>>>>> introductory price of US $99.99. My question for the list is: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With the ability dictate and navigate the Mac via speech, what >>>>>>>>>>>>>> would be the avantages in investing in Dragon? One feature that >>>>>>>>>>>>>> caught my attention was the ability to transcribe an single >>>>>>>>>>>>>> voice audio to script. I have used Dragon Naturally Speaking on >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PC side and have been able to work it with JAWS without >>>>>>>>>>>>>> J-Say. Also, has anyone used Dragon with VO running in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> bacground for support? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any input on this subject. Oh by the way, if anyone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> is interested, the promotion goes until 3/31. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Eileen >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. So let >>>>>>>>>> me come close this message out by saying this I've not had any real >>>>>>>>>> problems with Dragon version three and use the voiceover. If anyone >>>>>>>>>> has any questions feel free to write me off last night be happy to >>>>>>>>>> answer them when I have time. Thank you all very much for reading. >>>>>>>>>> Please note that I'm dictating this to my phone because I'm out and >>>>>>>>>> about. Brett this message and wanted to at least begin the process >>>>>>>>>> of explaining that all is not quite the way that it appears. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Have a great day, >>>> Alex Hall >>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> Have a great day, >> Alex Hall >> mehg...@icloud.com >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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