Hi. Can anyone point me to the trial. I would like to buy it mainly because danish is not supported in apples dictate.
Best regards Annie. Den 10/03/2014 kl. 22.17 skrev Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com>: > And all this is accessible, right? How does Voiceover handle things like word > suggestion lists, things that Wiondows screen readers need special scripts to > understand? On web pages, can you move around with commands like "next > heading", or at least tell Dragon to "press command option control h"? Sorry > for the questions, but I've never known a Mac user who also uses Dragon, and > a client of mine is looking at aa mac since their Windows machine is out of > date. Between Jaws, J-Say, and Dragon, it would be over a thousand dollars > just to upgrade, so I suggested using the money on a Macbook instead. When I > found my trial of Dragon to be totally useless, even after enabling it in the > privacy settings, I figured the mac was a bad choice for this person, but > your experiences make me reconsider. > On Mar 10, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Yes, you can navigate with it. In fact it has hundreds of commands for each >> of your applications that allow you to execute various commands. I believe >> you can even create your own. >> On Mar 9, 2014, at 11:55 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes I did. >>> >>> A question to Dragon users: can you navigate? In Windows, for instance, you >>> can say "press button" or "move up four" or "press tab". Can Dragon on the >>> mac do this kind of thing, or is it restricted to dictation only? >>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 10:18 PM, Brandon Olivares <programmer2...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Did you allow access to the accessibility features of your computer? In >>>> security settings, select privacy, then Accessibility, and check Dragon >>>> Dictate. This fixed it for me. >>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 9:03 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks. I'm not even talking about training, though - I cannot dictate >>>>> anything. I cannot see how to start or pause dictation, access settings, >>>>> or anything else. My understanding was that the trial is a time-limited >>>>> version of the full program, so in theory I should have full access to >>>>> all features. Either way, just dictating would be more than I can do now. >>>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Maurice Mines <maurice.mi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> That afternoon, now then reading this message again you >>>>>> installed a trial of Dragon. Unfortunately the trial and the full >>>>>> version do not behave the same. For instance I don't know if in the >>>>>> trial if you can make many adjustments. Two in the flow version however >>>>>> once the product is installed the screens leading you through the >>>>>> training work for the most part one just has to interact with much of >>>>>> the training materials as they are based in a funny type of HTML. But >>>>>> overall I found them to be usable. The other thing you might want to >>>>>> know is that Dragon uses the TextEdit interface in order to store its >>>>>> text before you transfer it into an application. Although this is very >>>>>> confusing to a voiceover user. I would strongly suggest that when using >>>>>> the application used to set up whatever profile you're going to use and >>>>>> pick from the options in the speech menu. For instance, I prefer to >>>>>> start my dictation from a sleep state. This way I can isolate the Dragon >>>>>> functions from the voiceover functions. But if one wanted to one could >>>>>> start the microphone immediately by any least microphone on selection >>>>>> for instance. And these all in very different windows. The best way I >>>>>> know of to keep track of things, if you can is get a braille display and >>>>>> certainly keep looking at it at all times because the bell displays can >>>>>> assure you where the cursor is the most part in Michigan figure >>>>>> voiceovers burial preferences differently. They stated (if not tried >>>>>> version for yet. But I'm guessing that it is much like version 3 so once >>>>>> it is installed a blind person should not have many problems with it. >>>>>> >>>>>> We further note I don't work for the company, but I do use the product >>>>>> virtually every day. Because of the written expression disorder that I >>>>>> mentioned last night, without Dragon I probably would not have a job. >>>>>> Have a good rest of the evening. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sincerely Maurice mines. >>>>>> student accessibility aid. >>>>>> Voicemail phone 360-524-0791. >>>>>> School/work email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu. >>>>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 7:53 AM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I'd love to know what you did then. I installed a trial of Dragon a few >>>>>>> weeks ago, opened it up, and Voiceover hardly even saw that a window >>>>>>> was there. I could configure nothing, there were no instructions, >>>>>>> nothing. Yes, I enabled it in my security settings. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As to screen navigation, I know someone for whom that is a must. This >>>>>>> person has limited use of one hand and no use of the other, so relies >>>>>>> on speech commands to do just about everything. A headset is a must, >>>>>>> true. >>>>>>> On Mar 9, 2014, at 12:33 AM, Maurice Mines <maurice.mi...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Good evening, before we start characterizing software good, or bad. I >>>>>>>> think we need to stop and try and think of who might be reading this. >>>>>>>> Most people it is true don't need dictation but some of us were >>>>>>>> actually have verified written expression disorders and other >>>>>>>> disabling conditions that require the use of dragon would be helpful >>>>>>>> to make certain that we keep those people than mine. Personally I do >>>>>>>> use Dragon because of the above-mentioned written expression disorder. >>>>>>>> I've only used version three until five have had no real problems with >>>>>>>> voiceover. But I also use a braille wdisplay separate from my normal >>>>>>>> computing experience. I know that there is some concern about being >>>>>>>> able to use the product by telling it what to do as far as screen >>>>>>>> motion I think though that you run the risk of entangling with >>>>>>>> VoiceOver and that could lead to some headaches. When I get the chance >>>>>>>> I will actually use version four and will see how good or bad it is >>>>>>>> with VoiceOver. The concerns that Dragon is inaccessible are not true. >>>>>>>> I have not had any problems using it after making a few modifications >>>>>>>> they are minor. The biggest thing one needs to remember is one should >>>>>>>> use the headset and keep voiceover and Dragon separate as far as >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sincerely, Maurice Mines. >>>>>>>> Student accessibility aid. >>>>>>>> Voicemail phone, 360-524-0791. >>>>>>>> Work/school email address, maurice.mi...@pcc.edu. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 8:57 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Dragon for Mac v3.x is inaccessible, even the company admits to that. >>>>>>>>> I haven't tested out v4 yet. Still, if it lacks things like voice >>>>>>>>> commands to move around and edit text, or move up and down menus and >>>>>>>>> tables, I don't see the point. For straight dictation, the Mac does >>>>>>>>> well. That said, Dragon learns as you correct it, whereas the mac >>>>>>>>> does not, and Dragon is (from reviews I've read) more accurate even >>>>>>>>> out of the box, with no training. If you have problems with the >>>>>>>>> keyboard, look at Dragon, but be sure to test if for accessibility >>>>>>>>> and the features you will need. If you need basic dictation and will >>>>>>>>> not be dictating exclusively, I'd save my money. Those are just my >>>>>>>>> thoughts. >>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 6:04 PM, David Chittenden <dchitten...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Interesting, I believe the ScanSoft speech recognition is the basis >>>>>>>>>> for both speech recognition systems. Given that Mac Dictate can now >>>>>>>>>> be loaded directly on the Mac for continuous speech recognition, >>>>>>>>>> Dragon would most likely only be beneficial if one needed to use >>>>>>>>>> more granulated Command and Control rather than just speech >>>>>>>>>> dictation recognition. That said, I have no idea how well Dragon >>>>>>>>>> will be integrated with VoiceOver. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> David Chittenden, MSc, MRCAA >>>>>>>>>> Email: dchitten...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> Mobile: +64 21 2288 288 >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 9 Mar 2014, at 11:25, Apple boy <christopher...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ditto. Not that I use dictation but $99 is just wow expensive for >>>>>>>>>>> something that can be done at no additional charge. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Regards Chris >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clap along if you feel like a room without a roof! >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 08/03/2014 22:07, Eugenia Firth wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there >>>>>>>>>>>> I have not used Dragon, but my first reaction to this is that the >>>>>>>>>>>> dictation on the Mac is good enough that I would want a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>> benefit more before I would want to spend $99 for it. I find the >>>>>>>>>>>> one that already comes with Mavericks to be pretty accurate. Do >>>>>>>>>>>> they let you have a trial first? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 8, 2014, at 1:08 PM, Eileen Misrahi >>>>>>>>>>>>> <eileen.misr...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello All, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Dragon is launching a new dictate software for Mac. There is an >>>>>>>>>>>>> introductory price of US $99.99. My question for the list is: >>>>>>>>>>>>> With the ability dictate and navigate the Mac via speech, what >>>>>>>>>>>>> would be the avantages in investing in Dragon? One feature that >>>>>>>>>>>>> caught my attention was the ability to transcribe an single voice >>>>>>>>>>>>> audio to script. I have used Dragon Naturally Speaking on the PC >>>>>>>>>>>>> side and have been able to work it with JAWS without J-Say. Also, >>>>>>>>>>>>> has anyone used Dragon with VO running in the bacground for >>>>>>>>>>>>> support? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for any input on this subject. Oh by the way, if anyone is >>>>>>>>>>>>> interested, the promotion goes until 3/31. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Eileen >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. So let me >>>>>>>>> come close this message out by saying this I've not had any real >>>>>>>>> problems with Dragon version three and use the voiceover. If anyone >>>>>>>>> has any questions feel free to write me off last night be happy to >>>>>>>>> answer them when I have time. Thank you all very much for reading. >>>>>>>>> Please note that I'm dictating this to my phone because I'm out and >>>>>>>>> about. Brett this message and wanted to at least begin the process of >>>>>>>>> explaining that all is not quite the way that it appears. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Have a great day, >>>>>>> Alex Hall >>>>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>>> an email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Have a great day, >>>>> Alex Hall >>>>> mehg...@icloud.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Have a great day, >>> Alex Hall >>> mehg...@icloud.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >>> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > Have a great day, > Alex Hall > mehg...@icloud.com > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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