No, jim, VO-shift-backslash moves to column headers. VO-backslash opens the triangle.
Teresa "Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."--Groucho Marx On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:50 PM, Jim Gatteys <jgatt...@gmail.com> wrote: > isn't the correct keystroke vo-shift-backslash? > > On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:01 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: > >> Hey Jon, >> >> Has nothing to do with the large email file I am going through as that is >> just a file on this computer and I don't even have gmail on this computer >> anymore. It is definitely mac mail and a bug as for the last ten minutes I >> was trying to collapse a conversation with 4 messages in it, and kept >> dinging and dinging and wouldn't collapse so I toggled off vo and back on >> and then finally left arrow collapsed the conversation. I still have yet to >> get VO back slash to actually open or collapse a conversation so am pretty >> sure it is a bug that is not affecting everyone. Really frustrating. >> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:10 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I wonder if it has to do with the size of the mail you are still going >>> through? If you close down mail and use the Mac, does it still occur? >>> >>> >>> Take Care >>> >>> John D. Panarese >>> Director >>> Mac for the Blind >>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>> >>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>> >>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>> >>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: >>> >>>> John it is a system wide thing just did another restart so hopefully it >>>> will stop happening quite frustrating as you can imagine. >>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:03 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Where is this happening? I have not had any problems with sounds on an >>>>> iMac 2012, Mac Mini 2011 or Mac Book Pro 2012 Retina. >>>>> >>>>> Take Care >>>>> >>>>> John D. Panarese >>>>> Director >>>>> Mac for the Blind >>>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479 >>>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com >>>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com >>>>> >>>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION >>>>> >>>>> AUTHORIZED APPLE STORE BUSINESS AFFILIATE >>>>> >>>>> MAC and iOS VOICEOVER TRAINING AND SUPPORT >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>> >>>>>> Curious if anyone else is having this issue. All of the sudden you lose >>>>>> all sounds in Mavericks 10.9.2 meaning when you go to the end box and >>>>>> normally get your error sound like a bonk letting you know you are at >>>>>> the newest message instead of the bonk you get VO just repeating the >>>>>> name of the message instead of the sound. I know this is an error or bug >>>>>> as if I cycle VO off and back on I get the sounds back and it will work >>>>>> for awhile and then stop. Also as soon as I lose the sounds I have also >>>>>> noticed that keyboard commander stops working meaning if I hit command z >>>>>> the key I have set to bring up mail nothing happens, but if I cycle VO >>>>>> off and on keyboard commander again starts to work and command z will >>>>>> bring up my mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> I am also having a severe lag in typing but only when in mail it is >>>>>> really behind what I am typing and very sluggish. 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