Hey Jon,

Has nothing to do with the large email file I am going through as that is just 
a file on this computer and I don't even have gmail on this computer anymore. 
It is definitely mac mail and a bug as for the last ten minutes I was trying to 
collapse a conversation with 4 messages in it, and kept dinging and dinging and 
wouldn't collapse so I toggled off vo and back on and then finally left arrow 
collapsed the conversation. I still have yet to get VO back slash to actually 
open or collapse a conversation so am pretty sure it is a bug that is not 
affecting everyone. Really frustrating.
On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:10 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   I wonder if it has to do with the size of the mail you are still going 
> through?  If you close down mail and use the Mac, does it still occur?
> 
> 
> Take Care
> 
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> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:06 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> John it is a system wide thing just did another restart so hopefully it will 
>> stop happening quite frustrating as you can imagine.
>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:03 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Where is this happening?  I have not had any problems with sounds on an 
>>> iMac 2012, Mac Mini 2011 or Mac Book Pro 2012 Retina.
>>> 
>>> Take Care
>>> 
>>> John D. Panarese
>>> Director
>>> Mac for the Blind
>>> Tel, (631) 724-4479
>>> Email, j...@macfortheblind.com
>>> Website, http://www.macfortheblind.com
>>> 
>>> APPLE CERTIFIED SUPPORT PROFESSIONAL FOR MAC OSX LION
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 4:51 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hey all,
>>>> 
>>>> Curious if anyone else is having this issue. All of the sudden you lose 
>>>> all sounds in Mavericks 10.9.2 meaning when you go to the end box and 
>>>> normally get your error sound like a bonk letting you know you are at the 
>>>> newest message instead of the bonk you get VO just repeating the name of 
>>>> the message instead of the sound. I know this is an error or bug as if I 
>>>> cycle VO off and back on I get the sounds back and it will work for awhile 
>>>> and then stop. Also as soon as I lose the sounds I have also noticed that 
>>>> keyboard commander stops working meaning if I hit command z the key I have 
>>>> set to bring up mail nothing happens, but if I cycle VO off and on 
>>>> keyboard commander again starts to work and command z will bring up my 
>>>> mail.
>>>> 
>>>> I am also having a severe lag in typing but only when in mail it is really 
>>>> behind what I am typing and very sluggish. Curious to know if anyone else 
>>>> is experiencing any of this.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
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