How would I back up the individual file from mail? Not even sure where it is 
located I am also using Time Machine but don't know how difficult it would be 
to just take this one file from a time machine backup to reinstall after a 
clean install. I have tried exporting this recovered mailbox to my external but 
not sure if it was all successfully exported. Thanks,
On Mar 6, 2014, at 7:22 PM, Alex Hall <mehg...@icloud.com> wrote:

> I haven't had these problems either.
> 
> I use right arrow to expand conversations, and left arrow to collapse, as I 
> find vo-backslash to be unnecessarily complicated when a single key will 
> work. The problem with the arrows sometimes not doing anything except playing 
> an error sound is not new to Mavericks. I encounter it every so often, and I 
> find if I turn off vo, hit the arrow I wanted once or twice, then turn vo 
> back on, everything works again.
> 
> As to your gmail file, if it is on your computer and not part of your 
> account, why not back it up, do the clean install, then copy the saved mail 
> file back over and keep sorting? That way you can see if the clean install 
> will work, without needing to wait until you have the time to go through 
> those thousands of messages.
> On Mar 6, 2014, at 6:35 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Thanks Teresa. Agreed, and was really glad you didn't take that the wrong as 
>> you have been very helpful. Again, sorry if it came across to strong, ah the 
>> power of the word, and dealing with a lot of stuff here. Thanks again.
>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 6:26 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> No offense taken, Brian. I'm simply used to associating "bug" with a 
>>> widespread problem in the operating system, and to me, a bug is something 
>>> that can be reproduced by some number of users. Perhaps I'm picking nits, 
>>> and I apologize. Let's just move on, as it is a point I don't think worth 
>>> arguing over. :) I sure hope your issues are resolved soonest.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> On the other hand, there are different fingers.
>>> 
>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 3:05 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Teresa,
>>>> 
>>>> While I can appreciate your point of view if it is something that I have 
>>>> been experiencing for several days should I just call it a royal pain in 
>>>> the ass instead of a bug? Yes, I get that computers aren't perfect, and 
>>>> this is not an issue that a lot of people are having but there are several 
>>>> issues that many people aren't having but some people are and this is not 
>>>> specific to voiceover just do a google search of mac mail, so I don't know 
>>>> why calling it a bug is wrong. I'm not attacking you personally, and I 
>>>> hope this doesn't come across like that as I know people can't hear tone 
>>>> in an email, it's just very frustrating when you constantly have to spend 
>>>> large parts of your day dealing with issues that worked completely fine 
>>>> only days ago.
>>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 5:19 PM, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I'd like to make a suggestion. before declaring something a "bug", it 
>>>>> might be a good idea to find out if other users are experiencing the same 
>>>>> problems. For example, I haven't experienced any of these, and I haven't 
>>>>> heard of it happening. Sometimes there are individual glitches that 
>>>>> happen. A few years back, my Mac kept cutting out audio on me, then I 
>>>>> realized it was cutting out disc activity as well. I thought it was my 
>>>>> torrent program, but as it turned out, it was my hard disc. I once had a 
>>>>> problem with a braille display and it turned out the drivers needed to be 
>>>>> updated. So it might be wise to check out the problem first to see if 
>>>>> there are individual idiosyncrasies before crying "bug."
>>>>> 
>>>>> HtH, and just my $0.02,
>>>>> Teresa
>>>>> 
>>>>> "The golden age of science fiction is twelve."--Pete graham
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 2:12 PM, Jim Gatteys <jgatt...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have not had any of those problems.
>>>>>> Hope they get straightened out for you.
>>>>>> gJim
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 6, 2014, at 3:51 PM, Brian Fischler <brianfisch...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Curious if anyone else is having this issue. All of the sudden you lose 
>>>>>>> all sounds in Mavericks 10.9.2 meaning when you go to the end box and 
>>>>>>> normally get your error sound like a bonk letting you know you are at 
>>>>>>> the newest message instead of the bonk you get VO just repeating the 
>>>>>>> name of the message instead of the sound. I know this is an error or 
>>>>>>> bug as if I cycle VO off and back on I get the sounds back and it will 
>>>>>>> work for awhile and then stop. Also as soon as I lose the sounds I have 
>>>>>>> also noticed that keyboard commander stops working meaning if I hit 
>>>>>>> command z the key I have set to bring up mail nothing happens, but if I 
>>>>>>> cycle VO off and on keyboard commander again starts to work and command 
>>>>>>> z will bring up my mail.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I am also having a severe lag in typing but only when in mail it is 
>>>>>>> really behind what I am typing and very sluggish. Curious to know if 
>>>>>>> anyone else is experiencing any of this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> 
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