Thanks Esther for this thorough step by step explanation.
I was able to check the account setting, and it asked me to enter old
password. I left it empty, and I typed a new password but this didn't work.
I noticed something strange though; under password, there is a field called
"password hint" (or something of this sort) and the first name of my friend
in lowercase was written. I tried to type this in both old and new
password, but it didn't work. I asked my friend about the DVD that came
with his Mac, but he said he didn't remember seeing a DVD with his MacBook.
I asked him to search for it -- hopping he'll find it..
IF he didn't find the DVD, is there other way to update his Mac? i.e. can I
download from apple website the updates directly, and install them in the
machine. Any suggestion is greatly appreciated.
All the Best
Khalid
----- Original Message -----
From: Esther
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)
Hello,
I assume that Jonathan is suggesting you go into System Preferences.
1. VO-Shift M to navigate to the Apple Menu bar, where "VO" means hold down
the Control and Option keys together with any other keys listed as part of
the instructions).
2. Press "s y" quickly or Arrow down to get to the "System Preferences"
menu option and press enter.
3. In the System Preferences window press tab or use VO-Right Arrow to
navigate to the "Accounts" button (about 20 presses)
4. VO-Space to select "Accounts"
5. In the Accounts Menu, VO-Right Arrow from the toolbar to the Groups and
Login Options list and interact (VO-Shift-Down Arrow).
6. The first item should be your friend's account, and you'll hear his
login name followed by a description of his account access level, such as
"Admin", "Standard", or "Sharing Only". What gets announced as his account
access?
If your friend does not have "Admin" status, you cannot run the system
update from his account. Is there some other account listed in the login
options list that says "Admin"? As Jonathan says, you should be able to use
the install DVD to set up an Admin account and password if one is not
present, but the problem is that if there were any other system actions
that have been performed that required login and password, you will lose
the record of these permissions that have been kept in the system's
keychain permission records. If your friend does have Admin status, you
can try to stop interacting (VO-Shift-Up arrow), and tab over to the
"Change Password" button and press it (VO-Space). Problem is, you'll have
to type in an old password (twice, to verify your typing) and then a new
password. If there really was no old password, you can leave the old
password field empty and just press enter each time, then type in your new
password. But if you couldn't just type in a new password the way that Max
suggested, the chances are that there was a password set up, but your
friend either didn't know it or has forgotten it, because he has set up his
machine to allow him to automatically log in. Remember when you type user
name and password that these entries may be case sensitive.
I'm not sure how to proceed if this is the case and you can't set a
password. You should be able to insert the original install DVD and
restart holding down the "C" key. After you turn on VoiceOver with either
Command-F5 or Fn-Command-F5 and get past the keyboard and language screens
you should be able to go to the menu bar with VO-M and right arrow over to
Utilities, then choose an option to Reset Password. I'm not able to check
this here, so maybe Jonathan or someone else can assist. However, if you
do reset the password you can use that password to run the updates.
HTH
Cheers,
Esther
Dr.Khalid wrote:
>Hi!
How can I check the account pain and change the password from there ?
BTW, I'm still new to the world of Mac and VoiceOver -- however, I'm
enjoying this new world so much ..
Best
Khalid
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathan C. Cohn
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: Updating Mac 10.5 (password)
Ah, the problem of the automatic login. You could boot with the
Leopard disk and reset his password, but that will probably lock him out of
all his keychains. Check the accounts pane, and see if you can change his
password there.
Also, it is well advised for security reasons, to not use the
Administrator login created at system startup for day to day activities. It
adds a additional layer of security if any trojan horse or other malware
needs to skip to a administrative login in order to get full access to the
machine's root / full access.
Jonathan
On Aug 13, 2009, at 11:52 PM, Dr.Khalid wrote:
Hi All!
I'm trying to update my friend MacBook Pro from v 105.5 to 10.5.8. I
pressed VO-M, then I chose the software update. It says there are 9
updates. I tried several times to install the updates, or some of the
updates, but each time the updater ask me for a username and password. I
asked my friend, and he told me he doesn't have any password in his
machine. I wonder, what I should do? How can I pass this password thing? I
should note though that when I press OK and leave the password field empty,
the updater doesn't accept this, and will say either the username or
password is wrong.
TIA
Khalid
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