Here is a very shor primer on making DAISY books. To start with many of the existing books are converted from tapes and have no more navigation than tapes themselves as few libraries have either the time of staff needed to insert the additional navigation that is possible.
As I said, if made correctly then DAISY is playable on a wide range of playback devices to do this the producers need to follow some simple steps: 1. Audio must be named in playback order, that is names like 01,02, 03 and so on. most production systems will do this. 2. Audio must be in a standard format MP3 or WAV. 3. Playlist should be included in the DAISY filesets, this will greatly help in playing back the files in iPods and such. 4. No digital rights management should be employed. When made with full navigation including pages DAISY offer many advantages not found in other formats most notable is navigation to a particular page number and high speed playback. Gregory Kearney Manager - Accessible Media Association for the Blind of Western Australia 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202 Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America) Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696 Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only) Email: gkear...@gmail.com On Jul 16, 2009, at 8:55 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: > > Greg: > > I want to make clear that All of my comments were solely in regards > to NLS > and RFBD. I know nothing about what you do. > > I have never heard of the daisy format being playable on anything > but a > specialized player. If it can actually be played on an IPod, then > that is a > good thing but it's news to me. I personally have not had good > experiences > with so we'll just have to have a friendly disagreement for the > moment on > whether or not it's any good or not. I've found it to be bloated > and overly > complex. I have encountered many that weren't marked up for > navigation > properly which makes them harder to navigate than cassette tapes in my > opinion. Granted, all of my experiences are with the rfbd versions > but I'm > not totally sure that it makes that much difference. My point was > not to > step on someone's favorite file format, but to address the fact that > there > are main streme formats that would have worked quite well as a > delivery > system for NLS and RFBD that would have worked for both the pc and > mac. > That being said, If the Daisy can be made to work on non daisy > devices, than > it's fine as for as I'm concerned. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greg Kearney" <gkear...@gmail.com> > To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2009 7:14 PM > Subject: Re: NLS digital books and future versions of iTunes,iPod, > iPhone? > > >> >> The Daisy standard is hardly a "bizarre format" and when made >> correctly the books are playable on existing iPods and other such >> devices. The issue here is not Daisy the issue is that NLS and to a >> lesser degree RFB&D have chosen to add digital rights management aka >> encryption to their books. >> >> We make books without any DRM and include playlist so that they are >> playable on other non-Daisy devices. Daisy offers advantages such as >> multiple bookmarks, page and section navigation and the option to >> hear >> notes or not as needed. >> >> Daisy is a public standard and is published for all to use at >> www.daisy.org >> >> >> Gregory Kearney >> Manager - Accessible Media >> Association for the Blind of Western Australia >> 61 Kitchener Avenue, PO Box 101 >> Victoria Park 6979, WA Australia >> >> Telephone: +61 (08) 9311 8202 >> Telephone: +1 (307) 224-4022 (North America) >> Fax: +61 (08) 9361 8696 >> Toll free: 1800 658 388 (Australia only) >> Email: gkear...@gmail.com >> >> On Jul 16, 2009, at 12:53 AM, Barry Hadder wrote: >> >>> >>> That's definitely my vision of how things should be. However, all >>> such blind services (i.e. NLS, RFBD) seem to be hell bent on >>> producing >>> material in some bizarre format completely incompatible with >>> anything >>> that the main stream world is using. I wonder just how much money >>> actually goes in to the research development of that crap anyway. >>> Also, I think it will be a long time before the prevailing myth that >>> "blind folks are supposed to use windblows based pcs" is broken. >>> The >>> more everyone requests compatiblity with other platforms the more >>> chance there will be for change. >>> >>> >>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 10:39 PM, Chris Polk wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> that would be really cool to have only one device for all of the >>>> books/ >>>> music/phone/email, well you get the point. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jul 14, 2009, at 8:26 PM, Jenny Kennedy (Howard) wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi guys, >>>>> Well it looks as if the NLS here in the U.S. is going to be >>>>> rolling >>>>> out their long awaited digital talkingbooks and players in a few >>>>> months program wide. >>>>> >>>>> For a while there have been beta testers that have used assorted >>>>> aspects of the program's hardware and software. >>>>> >>>>> The digital talking books are going to be put on flash memory and >>>>> people who have the victor reader stream have been able to >>>>> download >>>>> digital files of the books to play on their players for a while. >>>>> You >>>>> have to register for the service and receive a special file that >>>>> you >>>>> load onto the stream from what I understand and it pinpoints you >>>>> as a >>>>> registered NLS user and allows you to use the download-able files. >>>>> >>>>> Well I am wondering if it would be possible for Apple to team up >>>>> with >>>>> NLS like they've done with Audible and allow iTunes, future iPods >>>>> and >>>>> or the iPhone to play the NLS DTBs? I am thinking it would be the >>>>> best thing in the world if I could put NLS books in iTunes and >>>>> on my >>>>> iPod. This can be done but it is against the law and cumbersome >>>>> and >>>>> time consuming. LOL and it would be just better in my way of >>>>> thinking >>>>> if NLS DTBs would just go on the iPod all on their own without >>>>> much >>>>> fuss or muss. >>>>> Do you all think this could be done and is it something anyone >>>>> else >>>>> would like to see? >>>>> How would people e go about telling Apple to look into this or >>>>> like I >>>>> said is it even possible? >>>>> >>>>> Best Wishes >>>>> Jenny Kennedy (Howard) >>>>> blueskyes9112...@gmail.com >>>>> Olathe, Kansas USA >>>>> >>>>> Join me on FaceBook: >>>>> Personal Profile - www.facebook.com/blueskyes >>>>> And feel free to join "The Blind Parents of FaceBook" group. >>>>> Search >>>>> for it in groups or contact me for details. >>>>> >>>>> Follow me via twitter using the username: ben_folds_fan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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